A light party clears Twintania (and macro icon question)

You people who say, "full i110 with Second Coil clear", you all seem to forget one crucial piece of information; hunts. What does this mean, you may ask. Item level means balls since you can get up to i109 because of hunts. So what does this further imply? If 8 people who are i109 can't win Twin, then it makes this video pretty impressive.

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Originally Posted by Exstal

You people who say, "full i110 with Second Coil clear", you all seem to forget one crucial piece of information; hunts.

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The tank has the High Allagan Blade and Heavy High Allagan Coat...pretty sure I saw HA gear on the others as well.

EDIT: actually, that looks like Noct, sorry. But he does have the HA blade, the SCH and BRD have the HA robes, and I can't make out anything else.

Definite T9 raiders

To be fair, High Allagan equipment has mostly the same primary stats as the i110 soldiery gear (Which you can upgrade through hunts), but just different secondary stats (Well, except the weapons ofc but they don't make TOO much of a difference). I'm really impressed that they managed to 4-man Twintania. Good job! :)

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

To be fair, High Allagan equipment has mostly the same primary stats as the i110 soldiery gear (Which you can upgrade through hunts), but just different secondary stats (Well, except the weapons ofc but they don't make TOO much of a difference). I'm really impressed that they managed to 4-man Twintania. Good job! :)

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Biggest difference is the people with HA, esp T8/T9 gear, are normally (I'd say 80-90% of the time) a lot better than people with i100+ with none.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

Biggest difference is the people with HA, esp T8/T9 gear, are normally (I'd say 80-90% of the time) a lot better than people with i100+ with none.

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Who's to say that normal people can't be good too? I'm sure with enough patience and practice, everyone can down t5! Remember that those people who can easily down t5 are the very same people who puts in the effort and practice. :)

On the video, sure they have HA gear and are more skilled but remember that there is also a possibility that it took them multiple runs to 4-man this judging by the fact that they reached the enrage timer.

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Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos

TL;DR: Icons only darken if the icon's skill is in the macro and unavailable on your current job.

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I'm gonna cite an example here. for my BLM I used a macro with the level 3 spells (for fun) and set Tri-disaster as the icon (because it fits) However I do not have tri disaster itself in the macro. It stays dark regardless.

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

Well, except the weapons ofc but they don't make TOO much of a difference

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They make an enormous difference...

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

I'm gonna cite an example here. for my BLM I used a macro with the level 3 spells (for fun) and set Tri-disaster as the icon (because it fits) However I do not have tri disaster itself in the macro. It stays dark regardless.

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Just did the same thing and it's lit up. I'm starting to think this might be a setting somewhere. :confused: Maybe it's to do with the hotbar it's on. Shared, non shared? I'll play about...

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Originally Posted by AdamFyi

Who's to say that normal people can't be good too? I'm sure with enough patience and practice, everyone can down t5! Remember that those people who can easily down t5 are the very same people who puts in the effort and practice. :)

On the video, sure they have HA gear and are more skilled but remember that there is also a possibility that it took them multiple runs to 4-man this judging by the fact that they reached the enrage timer.

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Obviously it took a bit of practice; different strat an all. But in general, people who don't raid aren't at the skill-level to do this. Most people think ilv = skill, when it doesn't. I've seen countless people in full sol-gear (mix of 100 and 110) that are beyond terribad...and they outnumber the good people with the same gear (full sol, no HA) by a huge margin.

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Originally Posted by Edenholt

Not trying to be a party pooper but check their gear and the dmg they're doing. They overgear this NERFED fight by far and their dmg is way above what the avarage raid team PROGRESSING throught T5 do, or at least the same amount what a full raid should be doing. Nice they did it, but nothing much or a "feat", sorry.

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No matter how you slice it, it's a feat. They're the first light party to do it. I'm positive that if me and three friends were in full i110 we still wouldn't be able to do it. Not that me and my friends are bad, it would just be really hard to do.

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Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos

They make an enormous difference...

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I only saw one or two people holding HA weapons. The rest doesn't seem to be (the glow on the weappn gives it away). Also, there are only 2 DPS, compared to the usual 4, so I guess that makes them at a slight disadvantage?