Butthurt about Moral

I'm quite hurt too. I spent a lot of time in wolfsden ever since i hit level 30, to be able to get a lot of wolfmarks so i can buy a PvP gear.
So i got 50 and a new patch came in.. i bought my pvp gear except the accesories and thought i will go to frontlines, but people started telling me that my gear is worthless. well i still find it better than level 45 gear.. but i had no idea i need to progress so far with main story in order to be able to gear up better. and to do so much PvE. in the end this is a PvE game sigh.

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Originally Posted by Danbo05

I agree with your point about WD, to a point. Just adding on however that WD is barren because the rewards are not worth the effort compared to frontlines. Win or lose in frontlines, you get a fair amount of exp/wolf marks. There are also mount rewards and titles to be gain. If the devs are looking to fix WD, they'll first have to adjust the rewards to be worth it, that way people will actually que up for it.

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Are you saying this knowing that WD gives a ton of rewards, now? If WD queues were as fast as FL queues, then WD would give rewards at twice the rate, either losing or winning.

What it won't give are the Tomestones, though, which I think is why people prefer FL as far as rewards go.

Unfortunately I think the vast majority of people who had i90 (and particularly i100) PvP gear ready for Frontline probably win-traded their way there. So that's one reason that they didn't allow PvP gear in Frontline.

From what I've read morale makes a HUGE difference in uncapped PvP, so yeah, you would basically end up with a bunch of juggernauts running around. If they're all in a pre-made party (this would totally happen and you know it), it would be horribly unbalanced. That's not the way to encourage new users to play and stick around in Frontline, and that was their primary goal with this content. Not to have new players go in and get stomped by ultra experienced, ultra geared PvP veterans. They already have enough of an advantage via playing plenty of PvP. They don't need another boost via gear.

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Originally Posted by DonS

I feel A LOT more people would pvp if there was meaningful gear progression.

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No, it wont, you will just get to see a lot more of leechers. Morale is too devstating. It is already witnessed in lvl50 Wolf Den wheregeared players can down those who dont have it in few secs. The gear progression will not lure people to play, this is also witnessed in the lvl50 Wolf Den where que time was always awful longer than lvl40.

As people cant fight back geared players with morale, they will just becomes leechers in the Frontline. (in reference to WoW BGs).

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Originally Posted by tehomegaking

Nonsense. Another person who has no idea about morale telling us again how overpowered it is. Morale was poorly thought out and implemented. PVP gear misses an entire sub stat and is outclassed by 10-15 ilvl's. PVE gears goes up to i 115. The amount of stats you lose by wearing pvp gear is massive.Thus making high end pve gear highly competitive in wolves den. The difference between a legit pre-frontlines r30/40 vs a pve geared player is not gear, it's knowledge and skill.

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Actually no, the 'high end' PvE gear is not competitive at all. High End PvE gear MAYBE beats the i90 PvP gear. A DPS in full i100 PvP is going to oneshot an i110 PvE gear player.

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Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant

Actually no, the 'high end' PvE gear is not competitive at all. High End PvE gear MAYBE beats the i90 PvP gear. A DPS in full i100 PvP is going to oneshot an i110 PvE gear player.

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LOOOOL say me you never go in arena right ? you are rly a nice joke
I have play 3000 arena and i can say :

the weapons pve 115 > pvp 100
armor pve 110 = pvp 100

CHILL YOUR BEANS

Ok, so it seems everyone skipped the Live letter translation which is also posted in the forum here.

Yoshida specifically answered this question, and he said they are aware of the issue, and already said there will be NO morale in frontline BUT, he understand how PvP gear are inferior in frontline compared to PvE gear and they will address it.

now I know they will probably add more stats so pvp gear becomes the ideal gear in frontline, but I hope they give slight edge in the gear that deals with debuff resists or somthing that doesnt break frontline for causuals.

/end

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Originally Posted by Rin23

LOOOOL say me you never go in arena right ? you are rly a nice joke
I have play 3000 arena and i can say :

the weapons pve 115 > pvp 100
armor pve 110 = pvp 100

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You're wrong PvP i100 is superior than pve 115 it could seem u r good with pve i115 but the difference is that u get more hp with that gear so your hp doesn't drain so fast, but in the end you still get a lot of damage and cannot deal good damage either. But about the weapon I fully agree

It's good they didn't let morale scale because people gimped their way to level 40 leaving people who didn't want to grind their face off way in the dust. To think that only 3-4 people per frontlines match would have tons of morale is dumb, more like, 10-20 wouldn't have that kind of morale. Once frontlines has been out a while and the pvp population scales , then they can reintroduce morale and do it properly, with a leader boards, rankings etc. Wolves den was straight up IMBA and only catered to very few people, especially level 50 matches.