Non-consenting SR ruins dungeon runs

I don't have a problem with speed runs when I don't actually need the dungeon but please if someone asks for optional coffers or areas, or outright says they are new take the feedback as such and adjust. Also unless there is a mage or a Bard in your group mass pulling is not really going to do anything other than unnecessarily strain Healer/Paladin MP or TP in general.

So yeah all I ask for groups is to be considerate of the rest of the members. I don't typically mind a speed run unless I need the optional stuff personally but I am 1 person of 4 players.

Scenario of Stone Vigil hm some days ago:

1) people say hi to each other
2) healer start to cast protect, tank runs away
3) everybody start chasing tank who have pulled 2 groups of mobs already and tank them in farther corner for healer to reach
4) healer can't reach tank fast enough and party wipe
5) tank ragequit

I have no other description for tank other than - retard.
Half of "speed runners" are just plain stupid and unable to perform speed run as a default.

If you mass pull without tellong me first, I'll let you die. Especially if you're so obsessed with speed running thay you won't even let me cast protect and run away lol. Bye, I'll sit where I am and wait for you to spawn back.

I'll say it before in the 500 other threads about dungeon speedruns. Why wouldn't you want to do a dungeon quickly? I mean reporting someone for getting a chest is a bit much but otherwise I always assume dungeon runs through roulette will be a speedrun.

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Originally Posted by Sassi666

I have not done brayflox hard yet and need it for my animus book. I'm dreading it because I'll be new and running it with a friend. A Bard/dragoon combo is not going to be received well

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I wouldn't worry. I have done Brayflox HM in roulettes as a tank with any DPS combination that comes, no problems ever. Other thing are Party Finder Speed Run parties that may want some jobs.

isnt it not possible to SR the new dungeons?

The new dungeons basically have tools that prevent you from pulling too many mobs at once, however some people(like the OP) consider pulling more then 1 group of mobs a speed run, even though several jobs are meant for aoe damage over single target.

Purposely being lazy, and then complaining to the other players that you want them to preform at above average work so you can do less work. They want the mobs to die just as fast, they want the bosses to die just as fast as if we were in a speed run, meaning they expect the dps to preform over the top. However when it comes to them actually doing work, omg how dare we ask a tank to tank.

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Originally Posted by BBQsalty

isnt it not possible to SR the new dungeons?

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It's possible, but much harder to do so; all 3 of the new dungeons have some form of a roadblock that you must clear before you can progress, locking out trash mobs before boss fights is not an option, and the trash mobs are a lot stronger than the last set of hard mode dungeons so that pulling mass groups will get a tank killed fairly quickly or at least makes it difficult for healers to keep up.

Yesterday I was casting protect and tank was already far. And after Sjoorm (Hullbreaker Isle) when party still is recovering of fall, tank with little HP was already do other pull. I had luck in keep all alive.

It is stressing when tank thinks the healer is god and can do miracles.

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Originally Posted by Adler

1) people say hi to each other
2) healer start to cast protect, tank runs away
3) everybody start chasing tank who have pulled 2 groups of mobs already and tank them in farther corner for healer to reach
4) healer can't reach tank fast enough and party wipe
5) tank ragequit

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Kinda reminds me of a WAR tank I had a month ago who pulled the entire first room in Pharos Sirius (while I was still buffing the party). Couldn't keep them alive due to all the DoT's and the defence debuff they got. We wiped, he claimed I was a bad healer and then left before I could retort.

The party setup was: WAR, SCH, DRG and SMN.