White Mage Gearing Suggestions.

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Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it is partially related to the OP's question...which food or food items are recommended for a White Mage to consume on a regular basis for maximum healing effectiveness?

Right now I am drinking Grape Juice, although I used to drink Mulled Tea.

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Make sure you look at the Max stat bonus when you are buying food instead of the % bonuses. Grape juice is meant to be used at low levels which is why the % boosts are high but they cap incredibly low. Mulled Tea would be giving you about 3-4 times the stats.

Mulled Tea is probably the most cost-effective/inexpensive food, but if you have the means to make or purchase them the High Quality versions of Black Truffle Risotto, Pineapple Juice, and Pineapple Ponzecake are all worth using, with the latter two having similar stats with the Juice weighted towards Piety and the Cake weighted towards Spell Speed. It's up to you and your playstyle.

There are benefits to every stat for WHM, although Crit can potentially be dangerous enmity-wise.

Really it comes down to personal preference. Before 2.1 I stacked crit/ss. I was very unlucky with first coil drops and I just couldn't get my DET high enough to see much benefit from it. I loved the high amount of crits to make up for that. I never had emnity issues.

With second coils I'm going for more det/ss/pie. I personally like ss. Piety is nice but I now only have mana issues in T8 toward the end of the encounter and don't feel the need to stack it much higher. I did not like the lack of piety from the full weathered daystar set and had to equip X-Ethers to give me more room for that extra Rez or rescuing my party from unnecessary damage.

Your biggest healing buff will always come from extra mind and higher weapon damage primarily. If given the option always upgrade your weapon first then take the gear that provides more mind. Play around with your gear to figure out what stats you prefer.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Make sure you look at the Max stat bonus when you are buying food instead of the % bonuses. Grape juice is meant to be used at low levels which is why the % boosts are high but they cap incredibly low. Mulled Tea would be giving you about 3-4 times the stats.

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Thank you Marta and Estellios for helping to sort me out! And thanks Tharian for letting me borrow this thread really quickly (on my way out now! Good luck!), he he. Actually I completely misunderstood the read outs for food, so yeah, I've been looking at the percentage more than the Max stat bonus. Thank you for clearing that up. I'll buy a better option soon.

And maybe one day I won't suck! :p

May we walk ever in the might of our heals!

Other than your obvious stats (VIT/MND) your priority should be PIE until you reach around 5k MP, more MP means a bigger MP regen during battle (at 5k MP you regen 100MP a tick), the idea is to have ballad as little as possible to maximize your groups DPS; this takes priority over anything else. Second stat comes down to DET and Spell Speed. DET is an all around boost to your cures, however, having spell speed stacked as well could be the difference between a cure just a split second to late, and that clutch cure the tanks praise you for. Honestly you want a decent amount of both DET and SS to fully optimize your WHM. Crit is nice, but useless for a healer with the exception of a SCH's shield spell, and only because it doubles the potency of the shield, since you are a WHM this stat is fairly useless to you. In a simple order I would just say PIE > DET/SS > Crit. Depends on your reaction and play style.

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Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern

I don't mean to hijack this thread, but it is partially related to the OP's question...which food or food items are recommended for a White Mage to consume on a regular basis for maximum healing effectiveness?

Right now I am drinking Grape Juice, although I used to drink Mulled Tea.

Edit: Reading the above answers to the Tharian's question, I was surprised to learn that DET was an important trait to modify for us healers. What exactly does it do for you? Increase critical heal rates? Thanks Tharian for asking these questions, because now I am taking notes! Apparently I need to work on my DET, though...

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I've been using Black truffle risotto for raids since that gives DET. I actually think 6/8 players in my static are using that for food now. We have 2 cooks that just make a ton of it and give it to us so that helps.

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Originally Posted by Hollowed

Other than your obvious stats (VIT/MND) your priority should be PIE until you reach around 5k MP, more MP means a bigger MP regen during battle (at 5k MP you regen 100MP a tick), the idea is to have ballad as little as possible to maximize your groups DPS; this takes priority over anything else. Second stat comes down to DET and Spell Speed. DET is an all around boost to your cures, however, having spell speed stacked as well could be the difference between a cure just a split second to late, and that clutch cure the tanks praise you for. Honestly you want a decent amount of both DET and SS to fully optimize your WHM. Crit is nice, but useless for a healer with the exception of a SCH's shield spell, and only because it doubles the potency of the shield, since you are a WHM this stat is fairly useless to you. In a simple order I would just say PIE > DET/SS > Crit. Depends on your reaction and play style.

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While I wont go so far as saying that is horrible advice. There is no need for 5k MP as a WHM. I have 4.5k right now (mostly weathered daystar gear) and I have done through T8. The BRD in my group had to sing ballad for the SMN/SCH (DPSing) before I needed it. I only happened to notice that he was using it when I had near full MP and my shroud was off cooldown. So if you make use of your procs and keep Shroud on cooldown (it is ~1060 MP every 2 mins) then I would say anything over 4k is fine for most fights.

To answer the OP. Here are the BiS lists I have figured out for WHM and SCH for i100 and i110 (redid them right after 2.3)

With that in mind
My order for WHM is MND > DET > PIE > Crit = SS with a slight edge to Crit simply because it takes so much SS to see an actual difference.
My Order for SCH is MND > CRIT > DET > PIE > SS. The reasoning being that adlo crits will grant double the shield.

Leaving off weapon choices.
i100
WHM
Head: Weathered Daystar
Body: Scylla's
Gloves: Weathered Daystar
Waist: Weathered Daystar
Legs: Scylla's
Feet: Scylla's
Necklace: Weathered Daystar
Earring: Weathered Daystar
Wrist: Weathered Daystar
Ring1: Weathered Daystar
Ring2: Ramuh EX

SCH
Head: Scylla's
Body: Weathered Daystar
Gloves: Scylla's
Waist: Weathered Daystar
Legs: Weathered Daystar
Feet: Scylla's
Necklace: Weathered Daystar
Earring: Weathered Daystar
Wrist: Weathered Daystar
Ring1: Weathered Daystar
Ring2: Ramuh EX

i110
WHM
Head: Daystar
Body: High Allagan
Gloves: Daystar
Waist: High Allagan
Legs: Daystar
Feet: High Allagan
Necklace: High Allagan
Earring: Daystar
Wrist: Daystar
Ring1: Daystar
Ring2: High Allagan

SCH
Head: Daystar
Body: Daystar
Gloves: Daystar
Waist: Daystar
Legs: Daystar
Feet: Daystar
Necklace: High Allagan
Earring: High Allagan
Wrist: High Allagan
Ring1: Daystar
Ring2: High Allagan

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Originally Posted by Yonko

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Take a closer look as to why I said what I said, there is no way you clear T8 without ballad at least once, an extra 20HP per cure does not outdo an extra refresh you get.a At 4.5k MP you are regening 90 MP a tick (3 seconds) that extra 500MP is 3 more Cure Is just from having more than you to start off, with a 15% Cure II proc. Also in a longer fight like that, 10min+ I end up regening over 2000MP more than you just from standing idle which, in turn is another 15 extra cures I get more than you over the course of that fight which is an extra 18,000 HP cured over you that I did not require any support getting, not even including the free cure procs which if you throw in adds even more potency i get over you, as well as not requiring ballad as often which in turn adds to the groups entire DPS which in turn adds to a smoother more effective run.

PIE / SS all the time for me.

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Originally Posted by Hollowed

Take a closer look as to why I said what I said, there is no way you clear T8 without ballad at least once, an extra 20HP per cure does not outdo an extra refresh you get.a At 4.5k MP you are regening 90 MP a tick (3 seconds) that extra 500MP is 3 more Cure Is just from having more than you to start off, with a 15% Cure II proc. Also in a longer fight like that, 10min+ I end up regening over 2000MP more than you just from standing idle which, in turn is another 15 extra cures I get more than you over the course of that fight which is an extra 18,000 HP cured over you that I did not require any support getting, not even including the free cure procs which if you throw in adds even more potency i get over you, as well as not requiring ballad as often which in turn adds to the groups entire DPS which in turn adds to a smoother more effective run.

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And the fact remains that you do not need 5k MP. I understand why you are saying you need 5k MP because that lets you regen MP faster. But the fact remains that it doesn't matter if I finish T8 with 200 mp or 2000 mp. In fact I'd say that if I'm finishing with 2k mp because I choose piety over DET then I'm putting more strain on my healing partner. If you had read what I wrote I've done T8 and it was the SMN that was asking for ballad not me. I'm not saying I'm able to do T8 without a Ballad (I doubt you can even at 5k MP) but the fact that it was being sung for another Mage means I wasn't the cause of it. Yes I benefit from the ballad I'm not saying that I don't and I would have needed it but I'm able to last long enough that the SMN needs it first which is means I have enough MP in my book.

That said I still plan on putting PIE on my Novus with DET but DET is the better stat.

btw if you edit your posts you can get around the char limit.