Challenge log needs a bit of reworking

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Originally Posted by Altijacek

Retainer has to be made a bit easier so that quick exploration counts toward field explorations. Not fair for people who don't have extra retainers.

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I'm not against the hunt catagory being added... but more to the point, I wish the quick explorations did count toward the Field Exploration total.
Alternatively, lower the amount of field explorations.
I usually send my retainers out once a day to do field explorations with the rest being hunts/gathering/quick exploration. I have only once gotten to 14/15 and that was right before reset. Needless to say, I never got the 15/15. ~_~;;

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Explain retainer exploration ventures to me... You need 15 in a week, quick explorations don't count and to send a retainer on 2 takes longer than a day. So, even sending 2 retainers constantly on long explorations, you can't complete this unless you pay for a 3rd. I did it only for extra storage, but making this goal require you to make the extra retainer purchase to complete is really sketchy to me. I agree totally that this needs a fix.

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Agreed. They should make the requirement on that one 14 runs. Sending both (standardly available) retainers out every day would complete it that way.

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Explain retainer exploration ventures to me... You need 15 in a week, quick explorations don't count and to send a retainer on 2 takes longer than a day. So, even sending 2 retainers constantly on long explorations, you can't complete this unless you pay for a 3rd. I did it only for extra storage, but making this goal require you to make the extra retainer purchase to complete is really sketchy to me. I agree totally that this needs a fix.

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It can be done, it's just not easy and have little time for error.

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7 * 24 = 168 hours in a week
15 * 18 = 270 hours to complete 15 ventures
270 / 2 = 135 hours with 2 retainers.
33 hours left for "in-between"

So it is possible, just not feasible.

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Originally Posted by DragonFlyy

It can be done, it's just not easy and have little time for error.

Math:
7 * 24 = 168 hours in a week
15 * 18 = 270 hours to complete 15 ventures
270 / 2 = 135 hours with 2 retainers.
33 hours left for "in-between"

So it is possible, just not feasible.

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Your math is a little off (on the 270 / 2 line) because you can't split the 15th venture between both of your retainers. You'd have to do 7 on one and 8 on the other, so that should have been the first rather than the last part of the equation. It still comes out to 144 hours needed and 168 available so it's technically possible, but that's only if you're available to be online at all hours of the day and night for the entire week. None of the other challenges require that sort of dedication. In fact, most can be done in a day or two if you focus on them. So I still think they need to change the requirement to 14 runs.

It would be nice to add some kind of award other than exp for those with maxed jobs(can keep the gil reward, though.)

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Originally Posted by DragonFlyy

It can be done, it's just not easy and have little time for error.

Math:
7 * 24 = 168 hours in a week
15 * 18 = 270 hours to complete 15 ventures
270 / 2 = 135 hours with 2 retainers.
33 hours left for "in-between"

So it is possible, just not feasible.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Your math is a little off (on the 270 / 2 line) because you can't split the 15th venture between both of your retainers. You'd have to do 7 on one and 8 on the other, so that should have been the first rather than the last part of the equation. It still comes out to 144 hours needed and 168 available so it's technically possible, but that's only if you're available to be online at all hours of the day and night for the entire week. None of the other challenges require that sort of dedication. In fact, most can be done in a day or two if you focus on them. So I still think they need to change the requirement to 14 runs.

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Yeah, I sleep for 8 hours and work for about the same, plus dinner and all that lovely stuff life throws around. The window of time to do this is terribly small, and the timing just doesn't work out since the hour you need to be around to send out your retainers would constantly be changing into the time spaces I have to set aside for sleep or work.

Yeah I meant Chocobo raising not fighting alongside companion, but it can go in companion category. And as for receiving commendations, the award can be tiny, maybe just 1000 Gil or little to no exp. I play dragoon and on average I would get 20-25 commendations a week. Now that I play tank on another character I get literally double that a week. 3 commendations are easier to get than crafting 20hq items at low level, especially with doing 10 guildhests, 17 PVP matches, 5 dungeons, and if they added raids to challenge log that's even more chances to get commendations. And people would be giving them out like candy (they already do) if the challenge log boosted it to 10 instead of five.

I do think the retainer one is just way too unrealistic. Should maybe be the other way around. 10 field ventures and 15 total. It's just a slap in the face really because the game shouldn't really have a cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Altijacek

I do think the retainer one is just way too unrealistic. Should maybe be the other way around. 10 field ventures and 15 total. It's just a slap in the face really because the game shouldn't really have a cash shop.

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I agree, it's ridiculous. Those saying it should be 14 are still suggesting that challenge alone should require you to log on every single day, while every other challenge can be done in 2 days at most (beast tribe quests is the only one I can think of that can't be done in a single day even if you carry over your allowances).

Overall pretty good suggestions. I always thought it was odd that giving commendations was a challenge rather than receiving them, lol.

They definitely need to add a hunts category to the challenge log. Especially if they don't plan on raising the amount the daily marks give. It should be something like if you do all your marks for 5 days (25 for the week) then you get 50 bonus seals from the challenge log. That would make doing dailies a little more worth it. As it is daily hunts are pointless.