Omega, possibly confirmed? (Spoilers?)

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Originally Posted by Gerolan

If rumours are true that when coil ends, bahamut is unleashed, they will need something to take it down, and I can't see omega being powerful enough even though they said it was.

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This is a good theory, however I can't see why Ishgard would want to stop Bahamut, considering at the end of 2.3 both Lahabrea and Elidblus are standing behind the Holy See, indicating that Ishgard is under the influence of the Ascians. Not to mention, that the ending looked like Ishgard were preparing for war - possibly against the rest of Eorzea. The Ascians love sowing discord. They wouldn't be prepping Ishgard to war against Garlemald. That would just seem silly. My belief is that because Gaius failed in the task set him by Lahabrea, he has turned his focus to Ishgard instead.

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Originally Posted by Eltaire

This is a good theory, however I can't see why Ishgard would want to stop Bahamut.

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Being a dragon god, for starters

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Being a dragon god, for starters

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I think you completely missed the point of my post.

Independently, Ishgard may wish to stop Bahamut, yes. But they aren't independent.

The Ascians are influencing Ishgard, as they influenced Garlemald into calling down Meteor. If Bahamut awakened again, beginning another reign of destruction, the Ascians would want that.

The only benefit I could see in the Ascians wanting Bahamut and Alexander to battle would be the potential for mass destruction across Eorzea, and the subsequent further disruption to the balance of Aether. Also the mass release of spirits from people dying could be enough to fuel Zodiark's awakening, which may be what they are after.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Being a dragon god, for starters

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Bahamut isn't really a "dragon god" in this game, he's more like the Primal God, or ultimate primal. The dragons in xiv follow Nidhogg.

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Originally Posted by Eltaire

I think you completely missed the point of my post.

Independently, Ishgard may wish to stop Bahamut, yes. But they aren't independent.

The Ascians are influencing Ishgard, as they influenced Garlemald into calling down Meteor. If Bahamut awakened again, beginning another reign of destruction, the Ascians would want that.

The only benefit I could see in the Ascians wanting Bahamut and Alexander to battle would be the potential for mass destruction across Eorzea, and the subsequent further disruption to the balance of Aether. Also the mass release of spirits from people dying could be enough to fuel Zodiark's awakening, which may be what they are after.

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That was my point, an all out battle between two elder primals could be what the Ascians wanted from the start.

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Originally Posted by DoubleT

Bahamut isn't really a "dragon god" in this game, he's more like the Primal God, or ultimate primal. The dragons in xiv follow Nidhogg.

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Nidhogg being a king, and beatsmen revering primal like gods, Bahamut is thus the dragon god.

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Originally Posted by Alenore

Nidhogg being a king, and beatsmen revering primal like gods, Bahamut is thus the dragon god.

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Except nowhere in the game has any Dravanian ever indicated worship of Bahamut. He has been trapped in a prison in outer space for thousands of years. That means the Dravanians (if they ever did worship him) could never have summoned him in millenia. For all intents and purposes their god was lost to them. Despite that someone or something else has been tempering Ishgardians to the Dravanian Horde whilst Bahamut was sealed away, either in Dalamud or now deep beneath the ground... tempering has thus far only been done by primals and if Bahamut can't be doing it then that proves the Dravanians have an entirely different 'god'.

(And before anyone brings up Shiva, it was made pretty clear that her band of heretics are not related to the Dravanian Horde.)

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Originally Posted by Alberel

(And before anyone brings up Shiva, it was made pretty clear that her band of heretics are not related to the Dravanian Horde.)

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But isn't anyone known as a "heretic" to the Ishgardians known as such because they've allied with the Dravanians?

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Except nowhere in the game has any Dravanian ever indicated worship of Bahamut. He has been trapped in a prison in outer space for thousands of years. That means the Dravanians (if they ever did worship him) could never have summoned him in millenia. For all intents and purposes their god was lost to them. Despite that someone or something else has been tempering Ishgardians to the Dravanian Horde whilst Bahamut was sealed away, either in Dalamud or now deep beneath the ground... tempering has thus far only been done by primals and if Bahamut can't be doing it then that proves the Dravanians have an entirely different 'god'.

(And before anyone brings up Shiva, it was made pretty clear that her band of heretics are not related to the Dravanian Horde.)

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Bahamut looks like a Dragon. He's a primal. Primal get summoned by believers. So he had believers. So he is/was a god. => He's a dragon god.
Even if not worshipped by dragons.

That said, 2 NPC in Coerthas in 1.0 said dragons seemed to be worshipping a primal. The most likely candidate would be Bahamut, don't you think?
The beastmen started summoning primals some 15 years ago, it doesn't mean they weren't worshipping them before summoning them.

Finally, we don't even know if the dravanian "tempers" people. It could be some magick giving them control over the person, like a puppet, or brainwashing after months of torture and conditioning.

I really don't know where this idea that Teledji is related to the line of Ul comes from. Nanamo is still broken up about it, sure, but that's because Teledji's always been one of the less extreme Monetarists up to now and she's extremely bummed out that he'd go from being kind of mild-mannered to making a legitimate attempt at super-villainy.