Hunts unplayable on PS3 in many cases

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Originally Posted by Phantasmid

Except that this issue happens even on top of the line PCs. It's not lag, it's the game choosing not to render characters either because it's not receiving all the data before receiving more, or because it's trying to keep your framerate up - the issue is that it doesn't do so in an intelligent way that keeps things playable.

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there is option how many characters you can display in menu, problem is that even on maximum setting its around 200. I hope they will add unlimited option since we can handle that on PCs.... or anyone know about some ini where you can change that value ? I dont mind editing files to get it :)

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Originally Posted by Snorgrind

there is option how many characters you can display in menu, problem is that even on maximum setting its around 200. I hope they will add unlimited option since we can handle that on PCs.... or anyone know about some ini where you can change that value ? I dont mind editing files to get it :)

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I was in that group, and I have a fairly bitchin rig. It literally disappeared for everyone there all at once. It's not a PS3 thing. Most of us thought it despawned until it flickered back into existence.

This is a fundamental problem that has been in since launch and it needs fixed. Not just for Odin and behemoth but for EVERY MONSTER IN THE GAME. I don't care if I'm fighting a level 2 cane toad, I should not be losing renders in favor of some jerk's garuda-egi.

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Originally Posted by Seibah

Uh, except it's not? I've cleared the entire first coil and every extreme primal except Ramuh EX on PS3 multiple times. Lag has NEVER been a reason why I couldn't progress in the game.

Until right now with these S hunts. Odin and Behemoth are like, the only other troublesome thing for me on PS3, but both of those bosses have enough HP that they can load before being zerged down

The loading time between areas is also annoying but that could also be fixed largely by giving the hunt enemies more HP.

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Lucky you I and many others haven't had it that easy it's the reason I also had it on PC and the difference is almost criminal to a point you want to sue for intentional bottle necking. Now on PS4 and PC and no such lag issues ever but back when I had it on PS3 there was no such thing as an echo

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Originally Posted by Phantasmid

The visibility issue isn't just a PS3 thing. With enough people, even high end PC players have to get lucky to see the S ranks, anyone telling you otherwise has got to be on a low population server. Over on Exodus we had Croakadile disappear for almost everyone as more people showed up.

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You have no clue what you are talking about. Absolutely no clue. I started playing this game on PS3, and whenever I went to Odin, it took at least 20-30 seconds until it spawned. What is more, I could not see other players, just a huge lag fest and 95% of the people in there would be invisible for me. When I upgraded the game into the PS4 the situation changed DRAMATICALLY. I've never had any issues seeing Odin, Behemoth or any S rank monster. Don't say it's not a PS3 thing, because it freaking is.

Now I'm not saying your Croakadile didn't disappear and even PC players could not see it, but maybe there were 700 players in there and it was too much even for a PC/PS4 player. But for a PS3 user you don't need more than 100 players for a massive lagfest and stuff disappearing. You can handle hundreds of players with the PS4 just fine unless it's something very extreme.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

lern2red.

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phantasmid said it isnt just a ps3 thing. the monster render problem exist on all platforms.

Learn to read too. In the PS3 maybe you can't see a boss with just 100-150 players hitting it. In the PC/PS4 maybe you'd probably need well over 700-1000. How does that even compare?
Look I've been on both platforms, on PS3 and PS4 (can you say the same?), so I can state FACTS, and FACT is something is UNPLAYABLE on the PS3 when a lot of people gather in on point to hit something. Hell I wasn't even able to see like 95% of the people gathered in Mor Dhona when I was playing on my PS3, and when I upgraded to PS4 the entire place was FLOODED with people.
Again, don't even open your mouth if you haven't even tried the PS3 version.

The main idea is that PS3 truly can't handle big fates and most likely nm hunts. I started playing FF on PS3 and it is true that sometimes PS3 player has to wait 30 sec watching others attacking, dying etc before the monster itself spawn in his/her screen. After that there usually is 5-10 more seconds until ground aoe start to show up properly.
After getting PS4 I at least see the monster spawn instantly though in Odin fate he usually teleport on my screen.

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and yes - on PS3 Mor Dhona looks like deserted place with couple people standing there while on PS4 it is always crowded.

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

phantasmid said it isnt just a ps3 thing. the monster render problem exist on all platforms.

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Thank you.

It's definitely worse on PS3, as you can hit that limit more easily, but the issues causing it exist for all platforms. All I keep pointing out is there's a fundamental flaw in how the game deals with hitting its render limit, which, when you hit that level, affects all platforms - that being that it doesn't render monsters and party members before everyone else. Even PS3 users probably wouldn't have much trouble participating if this was fixed properly.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

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I'm primarily a PC player, I run a GTX 570, 8 GB of ram, core-i7 processor; Odin and S rank marks still disappear. I also play on PS3, and while it's definitely worse, there are underlying issues that can affect any platform if they're left unchecked, all it takes is primetime on a heavily populated server like Exodus.

Ok, I'm done here. You refuse to understand. You keep comparing PC/PS4 to PS3 as if they belonged to the same group when they clearly don't.

PC/PS4 = If the monster disappears it's becase you literally have 80% of the server in the same pixel.

PS3 = even CT with 24 players lags.

You want to put both platforms in the same sack? Sure go ahead and do it, but they are clearly not. Have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

more impotent rage

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I'm afraid you're still the one not getting it. What I'm saying is the problem right now ACTUALLY IS having "80% of the server in the same pixel," sticking everyone with the same disadvantage PS3 players can already be stuck with elsewhere.

To clarify, we're not talking about initially getting them to load. We're talking about when you're standing there looking at the mob and suddenly there's too many people and it disappears.