binding of coil extreme mode

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Originally Posted by Barboron

em...no, keep listening and stop trying to whore attention by being first post. Listen on and they continue to talk about "Brutal" mode, not extreme and you have to complete the previous difficult levels. There are different levels of difficulty in coil.

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omg he said extreme instead of brutal omg now the meaning is completely lost......-_-. everything he said is still correct. he never said there wouldnt be different levels or that somehow the existing coil would be replaced. he merely expressed some excitement over what they announced. come on now.

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Originally Posted by Ghasto

This isn't retuned content, this is untuned content, for the bleeding edge hardcores.
This is Coil before they said "this is impossible".

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Yes they said that the Brutal Coil will be the first version before they balance it to actually be possible to beat.

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Originally Posted by Namasu

Lockout is stupid on harder mode with the same loot.

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He specifically said that the only reward would be a title. The ability to farm because your group is capable of clearing would definitely be construed as a reward.

They should up the stats of drops 5 ilvl's & perhaps give it a minor polish/sheen upgrade.

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Originally Posted by Gesser

They should up the stats of drops 5 ilvl's & perhaps give it a minor polish/sheen upgrade.

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And they said no. Don't believe me? Watch the video.

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Originally Posted by nugglets

He specifically said that the only reward would be a title. The ability to farm because your group is capable of clearing would definitely be construed as a reward.

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He specifically said that there will be the same reward as normal mode (extreme for primals I think ?) but with harder difficulty and a title if you suceed. Moreover, for lockout purpose, doing Brutal version will lock you out of normal version for the week (in coil). You also have to do the content at least once to unlock the harder version of it

Its not called extreme its call brutal

Party finder group appears: "LFM Brutal Scob, first mistake = kick, not a learning party!"

*After 16hrs a a bard joins...*

Bard > Hello!
Party Starter > Hi! So you have unlocked brutal modes in second coil?
Bard > Is dis teh one wif da snake? I keel him gud. I'm gunna spirit bond for this kthx?
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:P But yea, given my luck with pugs for Scob when I was without a static, I can't imagine a brutal mode pug... I would never try. I'd giggle to myself when they inevitably appear in party finder though! And you know people will put those up in there! :P
I tried to make it sound as ridiculous as I could think of for my example... But reality is always much more amusing!

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Originally Posted by Gesser

They should up the stats of drops 5 ilvl's & perhaps give it a minor polish/sheen upgrade.

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No. That will make people believe they need to clear it to have the best stuff. The fight wasn't designed to be cleared. A cosmetic reward is best.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

No. That will make people believe they need to clear it to have the best stuff. The fight wasn't designed to be cleared. A cosmetic reward is best.

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I agree with this.

It can be said though, like I had to use the "w" word, but WoW and a few other games offer 2+ modes as well for raids and they do just fine. Depending on the time period/expansion and/or the game mentioned, usually the reward for the extra time spent is often a extra drop from the loot table or some such. I mean really, you are probably going to be doubling++ your time in there, 33% more drops doesn't seem too outrageous.

That being said, I don't think the FFXIV community would do well with that... Most of the player base hasn't killed Titan HM... If people were enjoying raiding more, better rewards might be a option. Based on feedback I've gotten on the forums, most people would rather steer clear of raiding... People aren't really into that kind of stuff as much in this game. I assume people that actually have a static group that raids Scob weekly are like maybe lower than 30% of the player base and of those people, maybe only a third of them would even want to do brutal modes.... So yea, 10% of the player base doing the brutals, and maybe only 10% of them actually maybe beating it eventually... So that leaves us with 1% getting the benefit... It's not cause it's so hard that people aren't skilled enough or anything. People just consider raiding in this game to be unfun, I guess? Personally i think it's fun.