Are we gonna see these spells for BLM in the future ?

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Originally Posted by lololink

Monk have a dispel actually, it's not really useful since most of the bosses' buff can't be removed, only place where it works at lvl 50 is against Haukke manor last boss where you can remove stone skin that the arhiman puts on the boss.

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You're right. Sorry. Wasn't thinking about removing beneficials from enemies for some reason, only negatives from friendlies. As far as removing magic buffs from an enemy though, that also feels more ACN than BLM in their current versions.

I think I've used OIP more in the Four Winds fate than anywhere else. Someone always ends up stunning the stoneskin cast when I'm in Haukke HM.

Honestly I'm quite disappointed with BLM. Don't get me wrong, it's a fun class. But most classes felt a fair bit different once they took on their Job. BLM got... Convert and Flare. Apoc is alright to toss on the tank now and then but insanely sad as a BLM Job skill, Freeze is bordering on useless (I've used it a grand total of 3 times in dungeons, with a bad group to root them after Sleep wore off, and Manawall... While being one of my favourite abilities, has nothing to do with a BLM. It should have just come at 47 THM or something, seeing as they get Manaward anyways.

Every other class I've played at 50 so far has Job specific abilities that completely change the way you play your class. The only change for BLM is we use Flare instead (or sometimes in addition to) Fire 2.

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Originally Posted by peaches

and Manawall... While being one of my favourite abilities, has nothing to do with a BLM.

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But... but it makes you immune to Landslide :(

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Originally Posted by Nestama

But... but it makes you immune to Landslide :(

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And to be completely honest, it is the entire reason I made a BLM ;) I saw a BLM standing in Landslide about 4 times in Titan HM and as a healer I was cringing every time and then scratching my head when he didn't go flying. First and only time I've ever seen that from a BLM in Titan. Then I get all cocky and try it. I eat a Landslide no problem, then I think "Hey, I'll stand in this exploding rock and get another 2 or so Fire casts in!" ... Little did I know, rocks are apparently magic damage. Oops :rolleyes:

But it could just as easily be a THM ability

Quake for a group AoE damage and group slow effect.

Just because!

Id like to see the spells that were removed from 1.0 make a return here. Absorb-STR, dex, INT, etc etc. Also with it there was the ability to transfer those absorbs to another player. I loved that dynamic, and it would actually be kinda cool in ARR. You could absorb some good stats, and transfer(Skill: Initiation) it to one of your DDs while they stack their buffs to do some quick damage. Or absorb VIT, and transfer to your tank right before he gets mountain buster. I miss those spells in particular for some reason. Also would love to see the return of the Re-raise skill to CNJ. Drain and Aspir(Siphon), as well as the various Spikes(blaze, Stygian, etc) Contagion was cool on THM, you could transfer w/e debuffs you had to the monster.

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Originally Posted by Drako

Id like to see the spells that were removed from 1.0 make a return here. Absorb-STR, dex, INT, etc etc. Also with it there was the ability to transfer those absorbs to another player. I loved that dynamic, and it would actually be kinda cool in ARR. You could absorb some good stats, and transfer(Skill: Initiation) it to one of your DDs while they stack their buffs to do some quick damage. Or absorb VIT, and transfer to your tank right before he gets mountain buster. I miss those spells in particular for some reason. Also would love to see the return of the Re-raise skill to CNJ. Drain and Aspir(Siphon), as well as the various Spikes(blaze, Stygian, etc) Contagion was cool on THM, you could transfer w/e debuffs you had to the monster.

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To stressful. Remember that Yoshida thought that an extra click in fishing was stressful, so your idea would go way, way beyond that.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Tornado - No; Wind element. Though I'd love to see it on a dps CNJ job... (Geomancer? Storm mage?)
Quake - No; earth element. Same as above.
Burst - Maybe, except that there are no element-specific resistances in use presently.
Break - Unlikely, it's debuffing characteristic puts at equal grounds for Arcanist and Earth Element for Conjurer
Comet - LB1
Ultima - Main story move; doubt we get to mimic an arena-destroying spell
Metor - LB3
Stun - Unlikely, since no ranged class has a stun presently
Drain - More likely to be ACN
Death - More likely to be ACN and altogether unlikely
Gravity - fractional damage; unlikely to be seen in this MMO
Demi - same ability as above
Dispel - All cleanses are currently limited to healers

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So if what ur saying is true, then BLM is not getting any new spells when they raise the cap ?? >.>

The 1.0 version had the 'ancient magic' set as Conjurer spells including Quake, Tornado, Flare, Flood, Burst, and Freeze. They functioned very differently to their FFXI counterparts though, and instead inflicted a strong DoT instead of dealing damage directly. It's almost hard to believe, looking back, that Conjurer was effectively the 'Black Mage' and the 'White Mage' rolled into one, while Thaumaturge was more based on drain-based heals and stat steals.

Honestly, while I'd like to see them return with a bit better function I feel that elements need to play a stronger role in the game before they will be worthwhile. At the moment, the only thing that defines the elements is what class has which spells. It means nothing to a Black Mage to spam FIREBALLS on a FIRE Primal or a WHM to cast AERO on a WIND primal. Which is just sad. If you tried that in FFXI you'd be expecting Ifrit to absorb the damage, or at the very least take zero damage from it.

Of course, I understand that they needed to make battles a bit more fast-paced and this meant streamlining player skills to a select few which they will use more often rather than FFXI's exhaustive spell list, 80% which are useless by the level cap. Still, I feel elements could still play a stronger role than they do currently and I hope that BLM gets updates to take advantage of that in the future.

Tactical fighting is far more entertaining than simply spamming the same skill cycle for every single target.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Gravity - fractional damage; unlikely to be seen in this MMO
Demi - same ability as above

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XI did fractional/HP/etc based magic and abilities like this just fine. So if they don't listen to the "ew xi in xiv!" we'll see it sooner than later, especially if Musketeer is interesting in any way.