Guildhests, hunting log, quests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaiken
Easter, Valentines, Little Ladies, Heavensturn, Halloween didn't use FATEs.Quote:
2.) Every Events you released is FATES related.
Look at #2. In fact, only Christmas and the Summer event used FATEs.Quote:
3.) Every Seasonal Event you released is FATES related.
Can't argue there.Quote:
4.) New Relic Quest is heavily FATES related.
5.) Your Book required FATES.
Nope, never had a specific mob that was required to be in a FATE. They were all open-world mobs. and some also ADDITIONALLY spawned in FATEs. There were no mobs however that were exclusive to FATEs.Quote:
6.) You make us kill mob in book that required to spawn in a FATES.
No you don't, you can do dungeons and earn them even faster by turning in equipment.Quote:
7.) You released Venture Adventure, but to level them up you need to do FATES to earn seals to buy Venture Coins.
Your choice, plenty of avenues for chocobo levelling in open world. If you're levelling your Chocobo via FATEs, you're not doing it optimally anyway. Urth's Gift is much better for choco levelling.Quote:
8.) We leveling up our Chocobo through FATES since we can't carry them to Dungeon.
Nope, dungeons are much better than FATEs to get Seals.Quote:
9.) We grind FATES to earn Seal
Nope, turns in raises Company ranks faster than FATEs, as well as earning more seals.Quote:
10.) We grind FATES to level up our Company and earn company seals.
So your only real points are 4 and 5, related to the atma questlines. Great, an optional quest that uses FATEs, the horror.
Looks like you're complaining for the sake of complaining.
SE Stop Using FATES for everything in FFXI Realm Reborn!
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05-10-2014, 01:34 PMwhoopeeragon
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05-10-2014, 02:00 PMRoris
FATEs as a concept which was taken from other MMOs that feature similar events aren't that bad, it just that the open world mobs in this game aren't really interesting at all, they don't have any interesting moves or strategies to them and the majority of FATEs are just oversized versions of regular mobs or a zerg rush of them. Of course any amount of strategy required will become less involved once enough people participate in them just like what happens with the two more "advanced" FATEs in the game which are Odin and Behemoth, but they could still do more interesting things with them and their mechanics.
Then there's the unnecessarily long wait times some of the book FATEs have, they aren't even a forced pop like Phaia or Watch your Tongue which seem to always pop once you kill a certain number of enemies around there area. If FATEs had more involved mechanics and were more similar to dungeon boss fights especially for big mob FATEs, a lot which used to be NMs in 1.X, they wouldn't be so bad. Give FATE mobs bigger move pools, better mechanics that require more organization between everyone participating in them, maybe more lore and NPC interactions in them, have them properly scale their move sets and the coordination required instead of just lowering or increasing their HP and damage. It doesn't even have to be what some could consider elitist tier difficulty, really just a tiny bit more challenge would be better than the current press 1 over and over until you win, but they are easy and not very involved by design so there's not much hope they'll get better. -
05-10-2014, 03:13 PMNekodar
FATEs are scalable, open world, not monopolizable, anyone can participate and here to stay.
YOU are tired of FATEs because YOU forced yourself to overuse them.
Have you ever actually read the FATE text? Or for some FATEs, the dialogue right before the FATE starts, or right after? -
05-10-2014, 03:22 PMElimEaster did use FATES. :) If you wanted enough of the silver eggs(or whatever color they were) to get a gold egg(which had the better rewards) you had to go out and find mobs that, if you got lucky, spawned the easter event FATE.Quote:
Originally Posted by whoopeeragon
The Shantotto, Dragon(PUFF PUFF), Lightening, Christmas and Summer events also used FATES. -
05-10-2014, 04:00 PMHeat
I hate FATES, if SE wants to keep them for the people that likes them fine, but dont force us to to them.
Why involve them in relic upgrade? keep them to seasonal event or something. -
05-10-2014, 04:10 PMYumi_umi
Our fates were sealed when fates were introduced.
But tbh some of the fate's descriptions were funny ( i.e lalafells being eaten/ preyed on lol) -
05-10-2014, 04:29 PMwhoopeeragonEaster didn't require FATEs to finish the questline. It was an EXTRA, OPTIONAL part of the event which involved FATEs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elim
Shantotto and Dragon are not seasonal events.
I already said Christmas and Summer. -
05-10-2014, 04:31 PMVolsung
Honestly FATEs are fine, but as we move forward in the future, SE needs to become
more creative, and they need to have a larger meaning/impact, rather than the worthless
lot they are now. Actual drop pools (maybe with % rate depending on rating), make them
not able to be just hammered with nobody grouping up, give them actual mechanics, make
them exciting and not boring crap. -
05-10-2014, 04:37 PMDuuude007
I'm pretty happy with the fates. Better than I've seen in several old mmos.
I'm actually quite surprised of how vocal this very small segment of our population is.
It's not broken. No need to fix it. -
05-10-2014, 04:44 PMElimThis is what you quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by whoopeeragon
Then afterwards you quoted.Quote:
2)Every Events you released is FATES related.
:) #2 was not strictly about seasonal events, thus I mentioned the ones you didn't. Yes, the Easter one was OPTIONAL, but she said FATE RELATED, not "event questlines that can only be completed via FATEs".Quote:
3.) Every Seasonal Event you released is FATES related.