Must See! Final Fantasy XIV in Symphonic Oddesey.

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Originally Posted by VeranRamaden

I totally agree. Naoshi Mizuta needs to do some tracks for XIV.
Cause all of his are amazing beyond belief.
Sanctuary of Zi'Tah? yes please.

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I think Sanctuary of Zi'tah was pretty amateur, even though it was nice music.

Nobuo's music is much more complex and interesting. I'm sure Nobuo could mass-produce music like Sanctuary of Zi'tah if he wanted to, I'm sure many other musicians could too.

I think one of the larger issues facing xiv is not a mechanics issue. Its the lack of a single track that when you hear it you think This is xiv, this song encapsulates every thing there is to know and feel about the game. There are a lot of really nice tracks hidden away in the dats that's are not being put to use currently, But they all borrow something from previous games and there musical compositions. I cant wait for the day when i hear a song and i think F*ck yea ffxiv!

i have been a fan of Nobuo Uematsu for years, but i wonder where the massively engaging songs that you fell in love with went. i just don't have the same connection to the songs as i had back then. it may be age that it takes more to impress now, it could be the song quality has fallen, or it could even be that the games just aren't as deep in story as they were. i don't know which it is, but if it's not me i really hope se figures out how to have an emotional response again from their players.

final fantasy VII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn71hIsm0U8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMbxUjmKbE

final fantasy VIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkcsvZv_Z4

final fantasy IX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFytzNhPsoM

final fantasy X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLnZ5jcsRpc

i only did a quick search on only VII through X. these take me back years and remind me of the feelings i had when i played what i considered a final fantasy game. i know there are many many other favorites that we would all post, but i caught myself listening to song after song and forgot to save links and i know there's even more i just missed.

sa far there's not that one song that hops out and says "hello i am ffxiv and you will remember me". the songs are good, but i just don't have that emotional response to them.

Nobuo Uematsu crafts some very wonderful music. I often turn the volume up and effect volume down when playing XIV. It's a shame you don't to hear the really good stuff in XIV more often. I think he was robbed a little bit when creating the soundtrack for this game, even he himself had sometimes 1 piece of art to create entire pieces. I think he did quite well with it.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

i have been a fan of Nobuo Uematsu for years, but i wonder where the massively engaging songs that you fell in love with went. i just don't have the same connection to the songs as i had back then. it may be age that it takes more to impress now, it could be the song quality has fallen, or it could even be that the games just aren't as deep in story as they were. i don't know which it is, but if it's not me i really hope se figures out how to have an emotional response again from their players.

final fantasy VII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn71hIsm0U8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMbxUjmKbE

final fantasy VIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkcsvZv_Z4

final fantasy IX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFytzNhPsoM

final fantasy X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLnZ5jcsRpc

i only did a quick search on only VII through X. these take me back years and remind me of the feelings i had when i played what i considered a final fantasy game. i know there are many many other favorites that we would all post, but i caught myself listening to song after song and forgot to save links and i know there's even more i just missed.

sa far there's not that one song that hops out and says "hello i am ffxiv and you will remember me". the songs are good, but i just don't have that emotional response to them.

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It is probably more the association you attach to the music rather than the music itself that makes you think it's so good. I really liked FFVIII's soundtrack. With the exception of a few tracks on FFX, and FFVII, FFXIV is definitely one of the best.

I think FFVIII and FFXIV are Nobuo's best, purely from a music perspective.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

It is probably more the association you attach to the music rather than the music itself that makes you think it's so good. I really liked FFVIII's soundtrack. With the exception of a few tracks on FFX, and FFVII, FFXIV is definitely one of the best.

I think FFVIII and FFXIV are Nobuo's best, purely from a music perspective.

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i agree that could be it. honestly, what classifies good music to go with a game? to me it is not the music on its own. it's the music combined with the game that makes the music anytime you hear it afterwards it brings you back and you say ohhhh the memories. i've heard some great songs in this game so far, but have yet to have that defining moment in game with the music combination that truly hits me on an emotional level.

i'm not a music professional nor do i claim to know the complexity of the songs, but very few of us are. the ones of us that are not music professionals just have a taste for what we like. to me for a song to hit me emotionally is what i like to remember in games not what key it was played in or how many horns blew at the same time.

my wife and i went to a symphony a few months back and there was one song i looked over and she was in tears. neither of us could have told you the name of it, but the emotional connection was amazing. that's the type of music that i want in a game. maybe not the tears, but one that will hit me emotionally.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

i agree that could be it. honestly, what classifies good music to go with a game? to me it is not the music on its own. it's the music combined with the game that makes the music anytime you hear it afterwards it brings you back and you say ohhhh the memories. i've heard some great songs in this game so far, but have yet to have that defining moment in game with the music combination that truly hits me on an emotional level.

i'm not a music professional nor do i claim to know the complexity of the songs, but very few of us are. the ones of us that are not music professionals just have a taste for what we like. to me for a song to hit me emotionally is what i like to remember in games not what key it was played in or how many horns blew at the same time.

my wife and i went to a symphony a few months back and there was one song i looked over and she was in tears. neither of us could have told you the name of it, but the emotional connection was amazing. that's the type of music that i want in a game. maybe not the tears, but one that will hit me emotionally.

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True, the most brilliant songs aren't always the most evocative. If you listen to the soundtrack for FFXIV as much as me though, there are so many songs which I consider definingly-FFXIV. It's not Nobuo's fault there are few places where these songs are actually played.

As for the background music that plays in the zones, well let's just say I grew weary of every single song in FFXI too.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

True, the most brilliant songs aren't always the most evocative. If you listen to the soundtrack for FFXIV as much as me though, there are so many songs which I consider definingly-FFXIV. It's not Nobuo's fault there are few places where these songs are actually played.

As for the background music that plays in the zones, well let's just say I grew weary of every single song in FFXI too.

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on no don't take me wrong at all. i don't blame him. i was just saying i haven't had that "it" moment where i can say xiv is here for the long haul. that's not just song, but song and game combination are needed for that. also, i will add for that to happen he needs more than a picture of an area and told to make a song around it. he actually needs to see the game and be able to tailor the songs for each area.

say in x when yuna sent off the spirits and walked across the water dancing if it was just a picture he may have had some up tempo dance music and the scene would have been completely different. that scene and the one with her and tidus in the water are my wifes favorite 2 scenes out of any game i have played. with as much as i have played for both to be in the same game is outstanding music/game combination to me even though the music may not be perfect.

til this day though if i hear the song i will go right to that scene and remember it clearly.

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Originally Posted by Griss

I cant wait for the day when i hear a song and i think F*ck yea ffxiv!

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This would be "On Windy Meadows" for me. As I heared it I was back in La Noscea at the beta time, where I was the first time outside the city, attacked a goat and the goat killed me ^^

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

say in x when yuna sent off the spirits and walked across the water dancing if it was just a picture he may have had some up tempo dance music and the scene would have been completely different. that scene and the one with her and tidus in the water are my wifes favorite 2 scenes out of any game i have played. with as much as i have played for both to be in the same game is outstanding music/game combination to me even though the music may not be perfect.

til this day though if i hear the song i will go right to that scene and remember it clearly.

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Do you mean this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4d_ED3wFEs

im going to see them in baltimore in july 30!! yay!