An Idea for Focus Target and Assist.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Estellios

Uh... I just set a focus target by hitting square while targeting something then selecting it from the list. It's not hard at all.

If you want to use potions I'd just practice making an extra bar that you swap to manually. I have an all-purpose bar with potions/ethers on it as well as limit break/sprint/mounts that works fine.

---

Ahh square is the default. Like I said but square.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

that would interfere with the binds used in Custom Filters. that filter would need to be disabled. i didn't come up with anything for selecting the target. because if any player needs to actually target their Focus Target, then they most likely already have it woven in to their regular macro's.

but there is still the L1+L3 button combo yet. though i don't know if Square Enix plans to do anything with it.

---

Oh yeah, forgot about that. Knew there was something.
Quite honestly, do we need these custom filters?

I used them often on keyboard but absolutely never on gamepad.
I mostly used up/down, L1+up/down, and get close to something and press X.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Devante

Quite honestly, do we need these custom filters?

I used them often on keyboard but absolutely never on gamepad.
I mostly used up/down, L1+up/down, and get close to something and press X.

---

I find those custom filters quite useful.

Up/down can target party members, but doesn't help if you want to heal other players not in your party.
L1+up/down can target mobs whom you've already engaged, but doesn't let you target new mobs you haven't attacked yet, as those ones won't be in your enemy list.
Getting close isn't convenient for ranged characters, and even when close it can still be hard to control which mob may get selected by just pressing X.

So I'm usually selecting targets with left/right, and it's helpful to be able to control what gets included in the cycle for those.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Devante

Oh yeah, forgot about that. Knew there was something.
Quite honestly, do we need these custom filters?

I used them often on keyboard but absolutely never on gamepad.
I mostly used up/down, L1+up/down, and get close to something and press X.

---

That's all I use is the custom filters, I like being able to only select enemies or only selecting allies etc.

But what I'm saying is, you already have a filter for enemies. L1 and R1 only selects enemies.
And quite honestly, I've almost never had to heal people outside of PT. Not even in Crystal Tower. And if I have to, L1+left and right select those people.

I can just think of so many better uses for L1+ face buttons!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Devante

But what I'm saying is, you already have a filter for enemies. L1 and R1 only selects enemies.

---

??? But those are for switching hotbars. How can you target with the same key that changes your hotbar?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Devante

And quite honestly, I've almost never had to heal people outside of PT. Not even in Crystal Tower. And if I have to, L1+left and right select those people.

---

Really? I come across people low on health pretty regularly. Most often in FATEs, but also just passing by them as I'm travelling around. Then again, I do actually travel around. I guess lots of people port everywhere, so maybe don't get chances to see other players as often (at least not where they'd be in combat and potentially in need of healing). But anyway, I didn't know about L1+left/right targeting other non-partied players.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Niwashi

??? But those are for switching hotbars. How can you target with the same key that changes your hotbar?

---

If you press L1/R1 while holding L2/R2, the target cycles through enemies only.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Devante

If you press L1/R1 while holding L2/R2, the target cycles through enemies only.

---

D pad is much easier. If you are fine with doing that. Why are you not capable of hitting square and selecting the option for focus target?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eruantien

D pad is much easier. If you are fine with doing that. Why are you not capable of hitting square and selecting the option for focus target?

---

you have to press Square and use Up on the d-pad. then press either Square or Cross again. and that is not even counting having to repeat the process to completely remove your focus target. that is too many pressed buttons for something that should be so simple. in the middle of combat when you have other things to worry about like positioning or hate it can be much easier to make mistakes. i have never played a MMORPG where you had to go through so much trouble to set a focus-target.

sure macros work, but they're an inconvenient work-a-round. a more direct approach would be suitable.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

you have to press Square and use Up on the d-pad. then press either Square or Cross again. and that is not even counting having to repeat the process to completely remove your focus target. that is too many pressed buttons for something that should be so simple. in the middle of combat when you have other things to worry about like positioning or hate it can be much easier to make mistakes. i have never played a MMORPG where you had to go through so much trouble to set a focus-target.

sure macros work, but they're an inconvenient work-a-round. a more direct approach would be suitable.

---

3 key presses, same as what devante uses every time he changes enemies. So for example if you changed targets using lt/rt and l1 then hold l1 and hit square. That's more key presses than dpad, open menu up on dpad and then select. If you want it on less presses macros is best.