What does Determination really do?

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Originally Posted by DoubleT

Huh? What do you mean affects procs? Do you mean crit hit procs? cuz that is affect by the critical hit ratio stat. Do you mean the procs for jobs when they get a free cast of a ability? Cuz for most jobs those procs are procced by doing a crit hit.

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Exactly one job (bard) get's procs from critical hits and only 3 total (bard, blm, whm) get procs at all.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Exactly one job (bard) get's procs from critical hits and only 3 total (bard, blm, whm) get procs at all.

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Scholar technically has two procs - a chance of a spell speed increase when your pet crits something (also applies to SMN), and a 15% chance of a free Succor when you use Sacred Soil.

As a response to Ramesses though, the direct description in game is: "Affects the amount of damage dealt by both physical and magic attacks, as well as the amount of HP restored by healing spells. Auto-attack potency is also affected." Therefore, I highly doubt it affects proc rates.

from what I understood from this thread: Det. does not increase healing from healers on me, is that right?

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Exactly one job (bard) get's procs from critical hits and only 3 total (bard, blm, whm) get procs at all.

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Monk and Scholar also kinda have crit procs.
Crits grant a chakra for Monk, and an extra shield with Adloquium for Scholar.
It might be an effect rather than an ability, but it's still a proc.

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Originally Posted by hballamco

from what I understood from this thread: Det. does not increase healing from healers on me, is that right?

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That's right, it increases healing you do, not healing received.

Edit: misread

I see people are practicing for when the NEC job gets released.

Well this... was a bit of a thread revival. Now I feel a lot of lurkers will look over it, getting old or confusing information. This post will answer what it does as of now, 5.2, within this expansion.

Determination is the most simple of all the secondary starts. At level 80, every 25 Determination increases the healing you do and the damage you do by 0.1%.

That's all. You're done. Leave this thread and let it go in peace.

This is an old af thread from 2014. As such, BRD no longer has crit procs.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

Well this... was a bit of a thread revival. Now I feel a lot of lurkers will look over it, getting old or confusing information. This post will answer what it does as of now, 5.2, within this expansion.

Determination is the most simple of all the secondary starts. At level 80, every 25 Determination increases the healing you do and the damage you do by 0.1%.

That's all. You're done. Leave this thread and let it go in peace.

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And it's STILL better than Tenacity / Parry ever was.

Pretty sure that if you just read the tool tip it tells you what DET does....