Roulette Abuse?

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Originally Posted by ImDingDing

role a tank/healer or deal with it. at least they left and ate the 30min punishment rather than afk/trolling to bait a vote kick and re-q again.

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My main is a healer, which isn't the issue here. And no, it's not specifically the tanks and healers as others have pointed out. Unfortunately, they are near impossible to find replacements for as it's not common for them to queue 'in-progress.' They can just queue for a full run with no problems. It's the people that use roulette, knowing that they are testing their luck with whatever instance they get, but still ruin it for other people that may have been waiting significantly longer than they have. And because the instance hasn't even really started yet, it's hard to say if they have even receive a penalty. Just frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

You don't incur a penalty for leaving in that portion, I noticed. And I think it's some kind of glitch o_o

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A friend tested this recently. He skipped cutscenes fast, the others were still in cutscene, he left... and got 30 minute penalty.
Not sure how people manage to avoid it, if it actually is possible to leave without penalty.

A little while ago, after 2.2 hit, some people had the issue that the game locks in the loading screen for the cutscene.

Dunno if it has been addressed yet but maybe these players you think are abusing where just having technical difficulties.

This happened to me a few times as a Monk in Brayflox (hm). I'll just jump on my tank to avoid that. It is a pain in the Butt. I think that happened to me like 3 or 4 times last week.

used to be alot worse... asoon as some1 said 1st time here people left werent even willing to help the 1st timers through the dungeon lolz

but yeah DF isnt meant for speed runs or run up to 2nd boss kill n closed dungeon.. those sorts of runs should b outside of df with ur own premade teams - -

@ person who said role a tank or deal with it.... we shouldnt have to.... if u join DF n get a random dungeon then the people who left should b the 1s told to deal with it... hope the programmers make bigger punishments to stop this from happening in the future lol = =

I see this in nearly every low-level roulette where I get either Hauke Manor or Toto Rak. Tank bounces immediately. Luckily hubby roles a tank so if he's free I can get him to join us. Have had some epic 3-man HM SM runs tho. :D

Haven't had to deal too much with the abuse of Brayflox HM where people drop after 2nd boss, so have been lucky there.

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Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze

I had this happen last night. Zoned into Halatali HM and tank just left. The SMN got out Titan and tanked up to the 2nd boss before we got a replacement.

I hate hate hate it.

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This makes me sad. I love Halatai HM. It's easy and quick once you know the tricks to tanking it. I've yet to have a group of any configuration fail. The ball chain debuffs give you some nice numbers, mistakes are easy to recover from even with random people and I've yet to have any one complain about being there.

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Originally Posted by Isus

I see this in nearly every low-level roulette where I get either Hauke Manor or Toto Rak. Tank bounces immediately. Luckily hubby roles a tank so if he's free I can get him to join us. Have had some epic 3-man HM SM runs tho. :D

Haven't had to deal too much with the abuse of Brayflox HM where people drop after 2nd boss, so have been lucky there.

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I've also had people complain that we want to clear dungeon for xp when they're doing their roulette low run; "I just want to speed, this is my one roulette for the day and I don't want to take too long." If xp'ers did that for everyone just wanting quick seals, they'd never level up...

FFS, roulette isn't there for people to just get some quick seals; it's there as an incentive for helping lower level characters. It's not as bad as just leaving but c'mon, if you don't like doing low xp dungeons, don't do the roulette.

Though, I do think the bonus for low roulette should be more than it is.

Yeah tanks never seem to stay in some of our parties..

If you leave the duty while others are still viewing CS and the circle barrier is still up, you don't incur the 30 minute penalty for leaving.

Additionally, what is happening is that people are doing Low Level Duty Roulette for the Myth or XP bonus and hoping to get either Ifrit, Garuda, or Titan story mode. Where myth is concerned: 5 minutes for 60 Myth > 20-30 minutes for 60 Myth from running a low level dungeon.

This problem will continue to exist until SE creates a "Low Level Trials" for roulette and separates it from the dungeons.