So is this normal everyday thing?

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Originally Posted by Slipikin

I don't care to clear everything in AV either. I get you were helping to level the member that was lower but if you let the seedlings sprout further on in the dungeon, you get great xp and they die quick. Killing everything in the first room isn't going to make that much of a difference. And it's not like it's a change of scenery and exciting...and the chest has crap pot in it. But I'd not made a fuss. I'm more inclined to go with the flow and find amusing ways to pass the time my own way.

With that said...the bard sounds like an tool but I'm sure we all encounter a few of those daily while gaming. :D

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That's funny, because for awhile there on PF on my server, someone always had "First room AV farm, great xp, rinse repeat to 50." Aperently those people couldn't beat that first boss in there lol

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Implying a MMO is not a waste of time in itself

Lol :P

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Lol I think this to myself everytime someone joins a pt and ragequits after 1-2 wipes. They're on a mmo, sometimes on a weekend/late at night, what else do they really have to do?






Semi-unrelated, but those people who ragequit on a perfectly good pt, because of a single mistake. Especially now with echo and you had just gotten the buff when they drop... (not that it's needed, just saying it can make stuff easier on some people)

I can feel either way on this, depending on what class I am playing, what level, which dungeon and other factors.

In the right situation, I would prefer my team clear the whole dungeon for Exp purposes. If I am level 28 and in Haukke Mannor, then there's no reason not to clear everything. You are forced to kill about 95% of the enemies anyway.

In other cases, I just want the dungeon over as fast as possible. Toto-Rak for example is stupidly long, and you only need to kill about 50% of the enemies to reach the last boss. Clearing the whole thing can easily feel like a waste of everyone's time.

In the case described above, Aurum Vale is one of the least loved dungeons in the entire game. If you can get your team through the bosses at all, you are doing good. And if there's only one person in the group who is proper level for that dungeon, don't presume that you should clear the whole place unless that person asks nicely for it.

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Originally Posted by Synra

In the case described above, Aurum Vale is one of the least loved dungeons in the entire game. If you can get your team through the bosses at all, you are doing good. And if there's only one person in the group who is proper level for that dungeon, don't presume that you should clear the whole place unless that person asks nicely for it.

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I happen to enjoy AV, and i also enjoy teaching people how to get through it without a hassle. Unfortunately, most people would prefer to ragequit at Coincounter rather than teach/learn the mechanics.

Which is hilarious, because there are no longer slugs in there.

/1.0 Coincounter traumatized

To OP, sounds like you did a nice thing. It's a bummer that guy had to be like that.

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Originally Posted by Elvin

You are nice tank and all that...

Maybe you intention was good, but with a lvl 48 and 3 other 50, you were making a favour to the level 48 making the other 2 lvls 50 spend more time there than the necesary. Or, to said it plain, you were being nice to 1 guy and been mean to 2 guys. That's not nice of you! :D

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The dungeon is a lvl 48 dungeon. So why wouldn't he cater to the lvl 48 guy? You want to do it quick, thats what PF is for. You go DF or roulette, help out the new guys. Thats what it is for, to help out the newer players, not just run through it to get your bonus.

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Originally Posted by Elvin

You are nice tank and all that...

Maybe you intention was good, but with a lvl 48 and 3 other 50, you were making a favour to the level 48 making the other 2 lvls 50 spend more time there than the necesary. Or, to said it plain, you were being nice to 1 guy and been mean to 2 guys. That's not nice of you! :D

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You could say that he was also doing something that made himself feel good/nice. So 2/2.

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Originally Posted by Shug

The dungeon is a lvl 48 dungeon. So why wouldn't he cater to the lvl 48 guy? You want to do it quick, thats what PF is for. You go DF or roulette, help out the new guys. Thats what it is for, to help out the newer players, not just run through it to get your bonus.

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Kinda have to agree with this. I would assume the lowbie wants exp until said person says they don't.
Some of the dissenting attitudes in this thread jerk me a bit, but everyone's got an opinion.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrias

That's funny, because for awhile there on PF on my server, someone always had "First room AV farm, great xp, rinse repeat to 50." Aperently those people couldn't beat that first boss in there lol

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It might might also be because first room farm is pretty good exp very quickly and can be done over and over in party in less time than a full run, and get levels a lot faster.

I guess it's a depending on the people you end up with. I don't mind the following:

- Clearing every mob if someone has an advantage through that (for instance if I get downleveled and see everyone in this Tam-Tara is Lv25+ I won't do all the trash) if he asks politely (I've had random people pull groups all over the place shouting "NEED EXP!!!")

- Waiting for new people that watch Cutscenes

- Explaining Content

What I do have a problem with is
- if people are genuinely slowing down a run (like when I'm not tanking and a tank waits like 30s before each pull)
- people afking more than once and especially without notice
- people iddling around (for example I had a low level dungeon lately, for the funsies, and the healer was a SCH, didn't need to heal me even once, but also didn't ever use any dps-skill, just afking the dungeon and even following me via auto-follow... come on guys...)


So technically the OP should probably have asked if the low-level wanted to clear everything and if the group is fine with that etc.


On a different note I have to admit I'm not rushing too badly. If I egt asked to speedrun WP I'll do it, but I generally prefer talkative groups that go through a bit more laid back (not as in super-slow, but if there happens to be something funny you talk for a minute without someone flaming "PULL OMG!"^^)