It's official Parsers are illegal in FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Kamahil

Cool. I hope everyone that uses a parser is Parma banned

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

So was using windower in XI but I've never heard anyone getting banned for using that in the 8-9 years it's been around.

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It was either 2006 or 2008 (can't remember which year, if not both) I knew several people who were banned for using windower in XI

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

Isn't the key phrase here "would not normally be able to do in game"? Can't a player get his DPS (although using a lot of math) from the battle log? Since that is an action a player could normally do in game, isn't that quote saying that it is, in fact, okay?

Either way, I don't care. I don't use them. /shrug

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No - Parsers read into data much more than you can "eyeball", hence why they're a 3rd party tool. They also display DoT damage which you, as a player, can't get an accurate number by eyeballing unless you have the cleanest battle log known to man.

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Originally Posted by MysticNeko

It was either 2006 or 2008 (can't remember which year, if not both) I knew several people who were banned for using windower in XI

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Yep, SE bans for it if you're dumb about it, Windower itself they don't care about (it is a 3rd party though) but it's the cheat like plugins that people adamantly defend and will only list say, the one that shows you TP and MP of players, but not the stuff that, you know, lets you see through walls...or run through them..or have exact readouts on monster pop times and so on.

They have to say that due to ToS but even Yoshida understands the use of parsers and said in an interview to not run around telling people you use it.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

No - Parsers read into data much more than you can "eyeball", hence why they're a 3rd party tool. They also display DoT damage which you, as a player, can't get an accurate number by eyeballing unless you have the cleanest battle log known to man.

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depends on the parser. some parsers get their data only from your combat log.

and my understanding of Yoshida's stance on parsers is that he can't come out and say using parsers to gauge your own dps is okay because then he's promoting third party software.

Problem with parsers are they are not fair to some classes. What if the monk has to step out since every red circle spawned by the boss. Or it had to be kited around and it was hard for them to keep position. You also have to careful with unofficial 3rd party stuff. You never know what it is doing in the background.

I had a friend suspended for windower and I installed it for him. He never talked about it or anything. It just got flagged. Maybe it was doing something in the background we didn't know about. But they don't really tell you much so he just let it go and took the suspension.

Is DoT even accurateness. Last I heard it was only an estimate.

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Originally Posted by Kamahil

Cool. I hope everyone that uses a parser is Parma banned

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You must also be in favor of executing people who steal bubble gum.

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Originally Posted by Stormrider

Problem with parsers are they are not fair to some classes. What if the monk has to step out since every red circle spawned by the boss. Or it had to be kited around and it was hard for them to keep position.

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Anyone who is intelligent with parsers always takes into account the encounter when comparing numbers. They're just a tool to be used, how they're used is up to the player.

If there's anything I'll never understand about XIV's playerbase, it's their illogical paranoia of parsers.