I'm mad about something, and you should hear about it.

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Originally Posted by Kazamoto

Diabolos is going to be a boss in the Lost City of Amdapor.

This means with 95% certainty he is not a primal.

This means we will not be able to summon a Diabolo-Egi.

Diabolos is a summon, not a trashy dungeon boss.

Thank you.

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Mmmmmmm..... Siren?

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Originally Posted by Wilan

And this is bad why?

Diablos is a minor summon

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If we want to go down this path, Carbuncle has always been a summon that either casted Regen or Reflect on you, thus he's technically a 'minor summon' - Yet here he's not even a summon that benefits you like usual.

Garuda is an EXTREMELY minor summon most notably, in your words, has an appearance in FFXI...why was she one here..hm? I mean "Minor summon" is your logic for it being a boss, Garuda should have only been a boss.

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We can't have the summoner class being able to summon every single one of the dozen summons of the saga, but it's nice that even the minor ones find a place somehow.

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Didn't stop FF games before - Didn't stop XI adding even "minor ones" as a summon :D

If they're keeping the theme of element-based summons I'd imagine you'll see Diabolos making an appearance at some point but I'd hazard a guess and say they'll go down the route of the prime elements of water, ice, lightning etc before turning their attention to darkness and light-based summons.

OP, I guess you haven't seen the trailer properly.
Go watch it again, and listen to the soundtrack that plays.

If you seriously have a problem with this FFVIII-esque Diablos then I assume you must have problems.
Because, its frickin' awesome.

Also, somthing somthing siren...

Siren was a silence/non-element summon, fair play on that one.

Also, I'd never suggest that Diabolos-Egi come before Leviathan, heck, were still waiting on Shiva.

And if so called 'minor' summons get there own dungeons. I am looking forward to the Doom Train dungeon.

Seems most of the primals match an element and a beast race.

Carbuncle - Light/Astral - umm... gonna say moogles here.
Ifrit - Fire - Amalja
Titan - Earth - Kobold
Ramuh - Lightning - Sliph
Garuda - Wind - Ixal
Leviathan - Water - Sahagan
Shiva? - Ice - Gigas?

Diabolos - Darkness/Umbral - umm..Tonberry

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Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard

If they're keeping the theme of element-based summons I'd imagine you'll see Diabolos making an appearance at some point but I'd hazard a guess and say they'll go down the route of the prime elements of water, ice, lightning etc before turning their attention to darkness and light-based summons.

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This is why I'm sad/mad that he has shown up so soon.

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Originally Posted by Waltz_Beat

OP, I guess you haven't seen the trailer properly.
Go watch it again, and listen to the soundtrack that plays.

If you seriously have a problem with this FFVIII-esque Diablos then I assume you must have problems.
Because, its frickin' awesome.

Also, somthing somthing siren...

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He does look awesome, but he should be the Umbral Primal... but I suppose as NoloeTazier has mentioned, Fenrir fills that roll as well.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Now I hope Fenrir becomes an Elder Primal, after all Dalamud was called "Menphina's Hound" and Fenrir is a hound~ kinda...but seriously he'll probably just end up the boss of Amdapor Keep Hard Mode.

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This is what worries me.

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Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard

If they're keeping the theme of element-based summons I'd imagine you'll see Diabolos making an appearance at some point but I'd hazard a guess and say they'll go down the route of the prime elements of water, ice, lightning etc before turning their attention to darkness and light-based summons.

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Astral*(Light) and Umbral*(Dark) fixed ;o tbh once Siren was confirmed for Pharos Sirius boss it became a given that other iconic FF symbols wouldn't be a Primal or Elder Primal. Diabolos will have more to do with the void than being a Primal (probably?). Now I hope Fenrir becomes an Elder Primal, after all Dalamud was called "Menphina's Hound" and Fenrir is a hound~ kinda...but seriously he'll probably just end up the boss of Amdapor Keep Hard Mode.

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Originally Posted by Kazamoto

Diabolos - Darkness - umm..Tonberry

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The Tonberry are the sick people of Nym, the othe lost civilization. There isn't anything to link them to a Voidsent demon like Diabolos. Siren, Tonberry King, Mog/Moogle, and Diabolos were apparently never meant to be summons in this game.

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Originally Posted by Wilan

And this is bad why?

Diablos is a minor summon, mostly famous for FFVIII and a bit for FFXI too.

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I see that you never play FFXI, hence making the remarks.

In XI, Diabolos are summon specialize in dark magics, which includes Death. He also known as some sort of Lord of the dream who creates the world called Dynamis, which is basically the what-if scenario when land of Vanadiel are in total ruin. Not something you can take lightly.

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Originally Posted by XanderOlivieri

The Tonberry are the sick people of Nym, the othe lost civilization. There isn't anything to link them to a Voidsent demon like Diabolos. Siren, Tonberry King, Mog/Moogle, and Diabolos were apparently never meant to be summons in this game.

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This is true, and its not entirely fitting for him to be with the Mamool Ja either...

Succubi/demon primal then. With all the funk going down in and around Hauke Manor....

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Originally Posted by BobbinT

I see that you never play FFXI, hence making the remarks.

In XI, Diabolos are summon specialize in dark magics, which includes Death. He also known as some sort of Lord of the dream who creates the world called Dynamis, which is basically the what-if scenario when land of Vanadiel are in total ruin. Not something you can take lightly.

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This

Also, to anyone who brings up that FFXI stuff doesn't matter here, Shantoto would like to have a word with you.
If she can bridge the dimensions, Diabolos could too.

I am pissed Fat Chocobo is a mount not a summon/primal. It is from FF-VII. Hear my anger ....