Why not allow class changing during duty finder dungeons?

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Originally Posted by Taika

I guess it's because it might lead to situations similar to 1.0 where groups changed to optimal setups for every boss inside one dungeon.

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Yeah and instead, people go for optimal setups PRIOR to entering the DF lol. All it allowed for in 1.x was to allow you to not only repair mid dungeon, but also trade stuff to stuff incase someone ran out food and whatnot.

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Originally Posted by Wilan

Yeah, and wouldn't accept you in their party if you didn't have all the required jobs exped and geared.
Words cannot express how glad I was that dungeon job switching was gone in 2.0, and I see no reason to make it come back.

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You claim this...but I guess you must not be in a FC that asks you to switch classes at times, which means having x classes geared and experienced on, thus no different from 1.0.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Yeah and instead, people go for optimal setups PRIOR to entering the DF lol. All it allowed for in 1.x was to allow you to not only repair mid dungeon, but also trade stuff to stuff incase someone ran out food and whatnot.

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The abuse potential in cross-server trading is too high. Have nothing to do with class change restriction.

I will be that cat:

It worked in WoW. No tank showing up? Warrior changed from Battlestance to Tank stance and Dutyfinder was restarted. shortened waiting time A LOT.

I would also like to have an option for certain classes to choose if they want to tank or DD. A Warrior can dish out damage mighty fine when defiance is off. With CERTAIN encounters a Monk could tank. Some encounters don't need 2 tanks and shouldn't be enforced in Dutyfinder. Some content doesn't need tanks at all if DDs and healers are good.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

One example would be;

- Enter Dungeon
- Tank Swaps to WHM
- You're now without a tank

The problems with people abusing it are the only concern ESPECIALLY with a loot system similar to what we have know;

-Finish Boss
-Tank swap to DPS
-Tank rolls on DPS item as they've swapped classes
-DPS miss out on the roll because the tank gets it.

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For your first example: This wouldn't happen nearly as much as you think it might, if at all. In both WoW and Rift - MMOs where you can swap your specs mid-dungeon as long as you're not in combat - I've never run into any instance of this kind of griefing, ever. Far more often I've seen it come to good use when a tank or a healer has to drop party and someone switches specs/souls to fill the role instead of having to wait 30+ minutes for someone to queue.

And as for your last example... Just lock the roll to the role you were in when the boss died.

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Originally Posted by Felis

The abuse potential in cross-server trading is too high. Have nothing to do with class change restriction.

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Obvious solution, which other MMOs have already established, is to make trading available only to people on your server...

Implementable just like vote kick. But here person is not starting vote for an expulsion of another, but for class change of self.
Could not be initiated during fight/roll/etc.
So if someone wants to change class in the dungeon and party wants it too? Why not. Let him start the vote, pass it.
Someone wants to change class during roll phase? Not happening. During the fight? Not happening.

1 this make things way to easy a lil waiting never killed anyone 2 the loot ooo i need that f greed ill just use my alt and take it 3 CT be a hoot with this i can see ppl fighting left and right and last if you make someone mad a tank dps or healer maybe they will switch there class just to be rude end result you will have to kick vote and still wait

sounds annoying.

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

sounds annoying.

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It worked great in 1.23.

You'd get halfway through Dzmael Darkhold and think "I'd prefer to play as Monk for this boss fight"
>Job Change Macro.
>Done.

Anything, I repeat ANYTHING in an MMO shoudl always be approached from one point of view before you implement it.

That is ask yourself a simple question: "How would someone abuse this?"

That answers everything you wish to know.

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Originally Posted by Karnyboy

Anything, I repeat ANYTHING in an MMO shoudl always be approached from one point of view before you implement it.

That is ask yourself a simple question: "How would someone abuse this?"

That answers everything you wish to know.

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Yeah, we totally abused being able to repair ourselves and other and switching classes if we felt like it. You were never "forced" to unless you were bad at dodging and got stuck on BLM.