What can I do for double wicked wheel as a WHM?

Do to the fact we dont always get tanks who know how to mitigate properly.
As a WHM I look for Suprana's friction, when I see it I will swift stone and Eye for Eye, and Virus garuda when she is back, and Bene or timed DS Cure 2 spam as soon as first big chunk is gone. Providing the tank geared well enough, this should carry a braindead tank through this phase.

I have one of my chat tabs popped out and dedicated exclusively to damage I take and mob abilities. This means that when any ability I know I need to start pre-curing for starts casting, I can start casting cure 2 even if I don't know the timing yet. This helps a lot on learning new fights because all you need to know is the ability that you need to mitigate. (It doesn't work for all things, but its good for most.) When I was learning this fight initially I watched that box like a hawk until I got the pattern down.

For a healer, you just have to learn when WW is coming up. Stoneskin/Adlo (if you ever go SCH) and time a Cure/2 to land right after it hits. That's really all you can do.

The tank does need to be using mitigation; no exceptions. If he's not doing his part, you need to get a new tank. Even i90 PLD can get killed by double WW + AA with no self mitigation.

As a WAR, I can get away with just using Vengeance if the heals are on it, and still have enough HP to not get killed by the AA. However, I like to stack Vengeance and Thrill of Battle at least, and Inner Beast if I can (sometimes the GDC just doesn't like me; the third mitigation isn't needed, but everything helps), and I can do that for every double WW.

Stoneskin the tank when Garuda starts using Slipstream and time your Cure2. Leave the mitigation to the tank.

It's really easy to reduce the damage but as a WHMl you can't take the place of your tank and use his defensives CD for him.
To be honnest i even saw (even in my FC one time) some people saying WAR can't tank garuda cause of this.The war was using 0 CD so OFC he got oneshot.It's the same with paladin sometimes aswell.
I did the 2* WW with my WAR full STR and it went perfectly fine if you're using your CD.It's the ONLY time you'll have to use it,other than that, she's doing ridiculous damage..
As a WHM the fight is really easy.To be honnest the only "challenging" thing to do is MAY BE healing and removing the wind dot when they take the feathers...

Thanks for all the advice everyone. ^^

I knew I needed help from tanks (although a few seemed to think it's the healer's job to carry them through ...) but I always assume things are my fault until proven otherwise; it gives me motivation to see where I can improve, so I was wondering if there was anything else I could do.

The timing on WW is still throwing me off because sometimes they WW before jump and sometimes after jump, but I'll keep an eye out for the pattern.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

The timing on WW is still throwing me off because sometimes they WW before jump and sometimes after jump, but I'll keep an eye out for the pattern.

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If you're going to win, it's after the jump. If you're going to lose, it's before the jump. Basically, you're in tank LB save territory if you're so far behind in DPS that the double WW precedes the jump.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

The timing on WW is still throwing me off because sometimes they WW before jump and sometimes after jump, but I'll keep an eye out for the pattern.

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This is not a problem :
=> Tank MUST pop his cd after the friction (he must use the ones which last a long time, aka rampart+foresight for PLD, so it lasts long enough to still be up if double WW occurs after a jump)
=> Ideally, you should use eye for an eye as soon as the MT is positionned to have more chances to apply the debuff to garuda+sister
=> Stoneskin isn't mandatory, it's just an extra safety (if the tank has at least 6k2HP, I'd say, and uses mitigation properly)
=> You can cast virus just after friction
=> The jump only depends on dps on chirada. If you want to make it more consistent (and are in a static group), you can have MT tanking chirada instead of suparna, so you'll have no more jumps (and this configuration is way easier for melee dps)
=> Ensure to keep your MT full life as soon as friction happens if you can't SS.

ESUNA the WINDBURN STACKS :D

:p

Seriously though, the first set of Wicked Wheels is reasonably easy to mitigate for both PLD and WAR with proper timing. As a WHM you can help a little by throwing up "Eye for an Eye" on the Tank ahead of time - your cross-class version of 'Virus' won't do anything though since Garuda is a caster.

When you see Chirada cast Friction, top up the MT. If your DPS timing means that Garuda/Suprana "Jump" before the WWs, then the Main Tank MAY eat a windburn stack if they're bad at dodging - but you should have plenty of time to Esuna this off them and probably also throw up a Stoneskin and start precasting Cure II prior to the 2x WWs. If DPS output is good, the jump happens before WWs, and the MT knows what they're doing and can kite for a few seconds... then Chirada is probably going to die before the 2x WW actually go off (which disables Suprana's Wicked Wheels, meaning that you only have to mitigate ONE of them)

In the storm phase, it can be VERY difficult for the MT to dodge Windburn if the jump happens after the storm starts. Again, throw up Eye-for-an-Eye for the upcoming Wicked Wheels, and be ready with an Esuna. In this phase, the 2x Wicked Wheels are usually staggered rather than happen simultaneously... but occasionally you can get unlucky and have a Windburn stack, plus a Friction patch/badly-dodged Slipstream and 2x Wicked Wheels all within a few seconds of each other. Tank should really be trying their best to dodge stuff properly and popping their biggest cooldowns (I try to use Sentinel for the first storm phase sisters rotation, Hallowed for the Second and Sentinel again for the Third), but hopefully you'll have 'Eye for an Eye' up and will have been saving Benediction/Swiftcast Raise "just in case"... ;)

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

The timing on WW is still throwing me off because sometimes they WW before jump and sometimes after jump, but I'll keep an eye out for the pattern.

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Set Garuda as focus target. In tornado phase, if you see her start casting Slipstream, you know it's coming regardless of before or after jump.