I do NOT want fights to be nerfed. I just want mechanics to work reliably.

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

"grr I don't want fights to be nerfed because everyone must be super pro at this game like me because older people, people with terrible latency and those without time to practice don't exist!1111one"


I've played the same class as my friend who claims that her character is "squishy" and has "low HP" which is why she dies.
When I played the exact same dungeons that she did in similar gear, I didn't get hurt or die.
This is not mechanics, this is the person, let those who cannot "learn mechanics" be able to try all content in the game.

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Somehow I feel like you didn't read my thread. :(

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

Somehow I feel like you didn't read my thread. :(

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*rereads again cause i'm having a brain fart*

The only legitimate bug is the disappearing Garuda. This has been around since the beginning. We've had many tanks who would just..not see her after a certain point almost always causing a wipe. This I'd like to see them fix. I've never encountered any of the titan bugs you've mentioned though.

Soso the only legitmiate bug is Garuda?
Let me tell you about a weird Titan EX encounter.
I am maintank, not in the reach of Landslide, never even a microsecond in it.
Landslide pushes me of the field where I was tanking. How?
Titan EX Landslide time, the lines never touch me neither another member of the group the go by left and right of us. Landslide BOOM hits both of us.
Fight goes a bit on, people try to fight on without us two, double GAOL time ... the guy who got pushed of was in the second gaol. Even more HOW.
From time to time the maintank gets a Lay of Land puddle under him, with all being alive and no DD ever being close to the tank, just really dead center under the tank. And no the tank also didnt just get replaced.

I on the other hand never witnessed the Garuda invisible bug yet. But the one where the spiny would decide not to protect certain members happened.

Ultima. Sometimes, while the hate indicator says it has maintank in tarket Party list also says maintank is on hatelist top, it roams around slapping on everything but the maintank. This happend several times now.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

Ultima. Sometimes, while the hate indicator says it has maintank in tarket Party list also says maintank is on hatelist top, it roams around slapping on everything but the maintank. This happend several times now.

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I see that happening with other bosses too, like the Bone Dragon in Crystal Tower. I wonder if that's part of their AI, to attack random people sometimes.

Well to do it SOMETIMES yes, a lot of bosses do. But only roaming around attacking anything but the tank is weird.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace

I see that happening with other bosses too, like the Bone Dragon in Crystal Tower. I wonder if that's part of their AI, to attack random people sometimes.

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This also happens with quite a few dungeon bosses, most notably the Golem in the Sunken Temple. If the aggro list still has the tank in the nr. 1 spot, you can assume it is a gameplay mechanic most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Nukocafe

*rereads again cause i'm having a brain fart*

The only legitimate bug is the disappearing Garuda. This has been around since the beginning. We've had many tanks who would just..not see her after a certain point almost always causing a wipe. This I'd like to see them fix. I've never encountered any of the titan bugs you've mentioned though.

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I didn't have anecdotal evidence of it so it doesn't exist. That isn't logic, that's just ignorance. I have the titan latency, and I've had the garuda bubble thing. Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others. I know people with top of the line computers who live on the East Coast closer to the server (I'm west) and still have these issues.

Fixing a problem in the game starts with anecdotal evidence of those who have had it, not with naysayers, if you didn't have it, why chime it to say it doesn't exist.

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I didn't have anecdotal evidence of it so it doesn't exist. That isn't logic, that's just ignorance. I have the titan latency, and I've had the garuda bubble thing. Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others. Fixing a problem in the game starts with anecdotal evidence of those who have had it, not with naysayers, if you didn't have it, why chime it to say it doesn't exist.

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Saying that I've never encountered it doesn't mean it "doesn't exist". Don't get your panties in a bunch.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

Well to do it SOMETIMES yes, a lot of bosses do. But only roaming around attacking anything but the tank is weird.

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Originally Posted by Myran

This also happens with quite a few dungeon bosses, most notably the Golem in the Sunken Temple. If the aggro list still has the tank in the nr. 1 spot, you can assume it is a gameplay mechanic most of the time.

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And sometimes is really dangerous. Like my previous example, I saw Bone Dragon turning back and AoE the whole alliance while I had the aggro of it. Or just running and not coming back after a while.

I've certainly had landslide push me off while I was clearly not in it but was very very close to it... so the ability certainly has a bit wider area than the graphics - so I quickly learned to be a few steps away not "just out of it".