Warrior Myth Pants what in the world!?

Doesn't determination also increase auto attack damage?

@Paikis: so ASSUMING that the weight for all melee classes are the same (which I'm pretty sure they are not but don't quote me on that) then having 24 Det would be the equivalent of having roughly 16 more str? Its basically makes the War pants 45 str.

Edit: Paikis is right, it would be roughly 8 str making the pants effectively 37 str. I don't math very well lol.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

Doesn't determination also increase auto attack damage?

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yes

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Originally Posted by Marxam

@Paikis: so ASSUMING that the weight for all melee classes are the same (which I'm pretty sure they are not but don't quote me on that) then having 24 Det would be the equivalent of having roughly 16 more str? Its basically makes the War pants 45 str.

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Assuming the numbers are correct, 24 DET would be the equivalent of 8 STR(ish)

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Originally Posted by -d-ky

hmmm, i was told by one of my healer friends, will verify it that whether it's true

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Heal a lvl 1 naked char then heal a lvl 50 fully geared you will see no difference :)

It is the wording in english that's misleading.

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Originally Posted by Thaliss

It is the wording in english that's misleading.

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This. I seriously have to wonder why people seem to think that Determination is or ever *was* a stat that increased healing received. Even if the description is misleading, increasing healing received but not outgoing would make it basically worthless for healers, who have it on a *huge* amount of their gear. You'd also have to ask yourself why, if it increases both outgoing magic and physical damage, it arbitrarily leaves out outgoing healing?

It's gotten to the point where, when someone says that Determination increases healing received, I have to wonder if they're capable of even basic critical thought because it just doesn't make any sense.

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Originally Posted by Bloodb

So that makes determination 33% better than Parry and Crit as a stat?

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It doesn't make the stat better. Just means 1 point of determination has more effect than 1 point of parry or crit. Just the way their algorithms are set.

BAD EXAMPLE - You buy concentrated diluting juice and double strength concentrated juice. You use less of the double strength because, well it's double strength. Does this make it taste any better? No. You just need less of it to make a drink.