Parties kicking players out beacuse of being in different languages

support the thread i made to join'ed more english JP datacenter .. :P

I have the same issue, and even when you use the auto-translater, the JP players generally use that as more of a reason to kick then try to communicate from my own experience. They are not all JP only just it seems to be a trend which is catching on. Right now on Masamune there are maybe 20 groups in party finder and more than half have flagged JP only, which really makes it difficult to interact. I try my very best to communicate, and use google translate as necessary, but I think this trend has to stop. The auto translator works so well it is not necessary to filter people out this way.

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Originally Posted by gadenp

Since this is Masamune, and you posting in Eng section, I presuming you are talking about Japanese speaking population, since they are the biggest population around :D

Well firstly, as trolling mentioned, the JP do not want to play with people that cannot communicate with. Go get FFXIVAPP. Put it up on your secondary screen. Also have Google Translate open.

Make sure to inform them that you are using Google Translate and can roughly understand what they are saying. Use Google Translate to say that in Japanese. Be polite.

That helps alot with most average content. Sadly for primal extremes, while that helps, due to nature of fights they want max communications.

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That maybe good and all for PC players but for PS3/soon PS4 Players is a problem, they have a problem where they can't use Google Translate. I myself an a PS3 player and I can't use it at all

When u join a jp party only, they check your language setting. If i cannot show u can understand, they will kick ypu but this was deserved. If they wrote jp only is for a reason.

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Originally Posted by Cairn

Agree. *snip*

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I'm just replying to this quote while I read the rest of the thread, but I want to add my 2 cents.

It really sounds like most examples of ENG or non JP players getting kicked occurs in the end game content only. I think, just like most players from any country, JP players probably aren't going to kick your or have a problem with a mixed language party when you're running Sastasha or some other low/med level dungeon. But I'm not going to hold it against them if they want to be able to communicate easily when they're PUGing Coil, such as in the example above.

My favorite party so far was a low lvl where we were all Lala and at the end the other 3 players spammed "otsukarelala" which I thought was just peachy, but I wouldn't think any less of those players if it'd been Coil and they had asked me to leave because they needed to take on the content more seriously, they've got every right to.

If this is something formed through the Party Finder they have the right to make the party the way they see fit. If you join something via DF and get vote kicked, you can report them for Harassment. Being removed from a group because you don't speak the same language is not one of the criteria to initiate a vote kick.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

If this is something formed through the Party Finder they have the right to make the party the way they see fit.

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opened up PF today , 1 / 10+ EM parties is not jp-only.
sure , its their choice , but it sure doesn't help when the prevalent culture here is heavily anti-gaijin.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

If you join something via DF and get vote kicked, you can report them for Harassment. Being removed from a group because you don't speak the same language is not one of the criteria to initiate a vote kick.

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doesn't help one bit

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Originally Posted by gadenp

Sir, in worlds like Masamune, queuing for only the secondary language gives you extremely long queue times. Even a tank can take up to 30+++ minutes for a simple 4 man party.

And before you say, we should move to a US server. Please note that physically half the world is closer to Japan. And in a game like FF14 which lag is a huge part, that 200+ more latency is big. Also we will encounter another problem in which US main times and ours do not sync.

Which is why, if you bother to read the forums instead of this trolling the OP, you would know that there is a request in the forum going around to group the servers with big English speaking populations together or to even dedicate a server for English people in the Japan Data centers.

Lastly, is this not a forum for Masamune players, what is a guy from Balmung doing here? Seriously looks like trolling ....

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It certainly isn't trolling. It's common courtesy to be able to effectively communicate in the social game you're playing. It's unfair to the other people who you're going into when you lie and say you are able to speak a language you cannot. If you can use translation well enough or can give enough grasp of a language to make it through then there's obviously no issue.

And no, I wouldn't ever say that you should change servers as I completely understand the issue with geolocation and lag. And I actually 100% support the threads asking for server groups being adjusted to ensure that English pseaking people in the JP Datacentre are able to more easily communicate with each other.

Ultimately it's up to SE to make this smooth for people, but you still shouldn't lie and say you can do one thing when you cannot, and thus inconvenience a group of other people. I would not be pleased if people selected English just to get a faster group when they could not speak it. I like being able to communicate with my teammates, and from everything I've heard about the Japanese players they are very much the same.

And whether I'm from another server or not should be moot, we are a global community after all and this issue does happen in the NA/EU datacenters (though to a much less degree from what I've heard) so it's an issue that concerns all of us.