PvP Materia = Useless

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

If you are a tank or healer you will want sleep resist.

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I have to disagree on the tank. Main thing a tank wants for resist is heavy. If the tank is sleeping healer can leach/esuna. 2 most annoying things Melee hate are binds and heavy.

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Originally Posted by Djlovedrop

Main thing a tank wants for resist is heavy.

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Pretty much this. With a good healer and communication you will rarely get locked in a position where you can't be dispelled from sleep/bind, and stuns on tanks are a non-issue. Miasma II kiting is the worst thing ever. :(

Miasma Disease + Heavy is equivalent to a 20 seconds stun. Problem is there is no resistance effect on Disease, in itself Disease don't do much after the 2nd application and most of the first application you can just stun them to stick on your target or just target swap to a closer one.

i feel the pvp materia is just fine, altho most of it is inately useless. I have had sleep resist materia save my team many of times. As a healer the less time i spend CC'd the less time my team spends CC'd, also heavy resist affects the miasma debuff so you get a 2 for 1 on heavy and healing reduction with heavy resist........


OP OP OP OP OP dont complain about smns if you dont have heavy resist

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Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura

Miasma Disease + Heavy is equivalent to a 20 seconds stun. Problem is there is no resistance effect on Disease, in itself Disease don't do much after the 2nd application and most of the first application you can just stun them to stick on your target or just target swap to a closer one.

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I think the heavy resistance will apply to all forms of heavy, unless people have tested this and found that heavy resistance has zero effect on Miasma's status debuff.

But that said, heavy is not anything close to equivalent to a stun. You can still act, be healed, and have the effect removed. Stun can not be removed by anything other than purify and completely prevents you from acting at all.

Miasma's Disease is confirmed to not be a Heavy or Bind effect. In fact if you notice Bind and Heavy share the same DR, if you bind someone and cast a Heavy application skill the Heavy will not apply. There is currently nothing to lesser the duration of Miasma's Disease, if given the choice I'm sure all melees would get that. Cause Heavy is only applicable by BLMs and WHMs.

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Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura

Miasma's Disease is confirmed to not be a Heavy or Bind effect. In fact if you notice Bind and Heavy share the same DR, if you bind someone and cast a Heavy application skill the Heavy will not apply. There is currently nothing to lesser the duration of Miasma's Disease, if given the choice I'm sure all melees would get that. Cause Heavy is only applicable by BLMs and WHMs.

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This is incorrect. I tested heavy resist and it works on both miasma and miasma 2. Not being rude but do you know how ALL the resists work and how much resist = how shortened the duration?

1 Resist = 1% duration reduction hence normal case Disease would take 8 Resist to reduce 1s Miasma 2 Disease timer. Never seen it happen on my friend's toon.

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Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura

1 Resist = 1% duration reduction hence normal case Disease would take 8 Resist to reduce 1s Miasma 2 Disease timer. Never seen it happen on my friend's toon.

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Sorry i read this wrong. My apologies. I thought you said heavy resist doesnt work on the heavy part of miasma or miasma 2. Sorry about that

Miasma's Disease isn't even a Heavy to begin with. It follows DR rules but there is no resistance to counter it. It stacks with other Heavy effect, aka Disease + Heavy = 10% Move Speed, the penalty is additive. And frankly if you ask me... IF a BLM worth a damn can easily safe his healer from any melee just by casting Blizzard 1 on them. It's a literal 15 seconds stun if no DR is incurred.