I hope I can un-unlock Copperbell Mine and Haukke Manor (HM)

I haven't actually done Copperbell hard yet, but Haukke manor last boss is a dps check, however it drops iLvl 60 gear, therefore it should be doable in full AF, unless of course all content should only be possible in full iLvl 90 gear.

I can definitely see where the OP is coming from. Just recently, I've had all three that resulted in wasted time. Copperbell Mines, under geared healers that couldn't keep me alive during the first boss due to DPS that couldn't kill adds fast enough, causing me to have to pull the whole bridge at once.. which is fine if you have a good healer. But, a fresh 50 in 50/55 gear? In Haukke, I've had tons of wipes on the first boss and the 3rd. If you the group has two under geared DPS, good luck trying to beat the 3rd bosses adds before she wipes the party with blood rain or whatever. And Pharo Sirius... I don't think I've ever had a group that didn't wipe at least a few times on the first and last boss. Especially Siren... I've had healers in AF2 not be able to heal/esuna well enough to finish that fight.

When I'm trying to get the HL-R done for the day, I'd much rather get WP or AK. I know that my time will net me the tomes. With the other three, you may get tomes or you may get an hour+ full of wipes followed by rage quitters. Nothing like wasting over an hour in one of the three new dungeons only to never finish it and then have to queue up again for the daily.

Because un-unlocking is a thing likely to happen ever. -_- Come on man. Really?

I've resorted to doing CT for my Myths. It's usually no more than an hour's worth of work for 200 philo and 50 myth. May not be the most efficient way but I really don't like the new dungeons (especially in DF) and I don't do speed runs.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

I haven't actually done Copperbell hard yet, but Haukke manor last boss is a dps check, however it drops iLvl 60 gear, therefore it should be doable in full AF, unless of course all content should only be possible in full iLvl 90 gear.

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It is doable, but may require DPS to actually use DPS food if their ilvl is near the minimum required.
Why more people don't increase their chances of success by using appropriate food is beyond me...

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

I can definitely see where the OP is coming from. Just recently, I've had all three that resulted in wasted time. Copperbell Mines, under geared healers that couldn't keep me alive during the first boss due to DPS that couldn't kill adds fast enough, causing me to have to pull the whole bridge at once.. which is fine if you have a good healer. But, a fresh 50 in 50/55 gear? In Haukke, I've had tons of wipes on the first boss and the 3rd. If you the group has two under geared DPS, good luck trying to beat the 3rd bosses adds before she wipes the party with blood rain or whatever. And Pharo Sirius... I don't think I've ever had a group that didn't wipe at least a few times on the first and last boss. Especially Siren... I've had healers in AF2 not be able to heal/esuna well enough to finish that fight.

When I'm trying to get the HL-R done for the day, I'd much rather get WP or AK. I know that my time will net me the tomes. With the other three, you may get tomes or you may get an hour+ full of wipes followed by rage quitters. Nothing like wasting over an hour in one of the three new dungeons only to never finish it and then have to queue up again for the daily.

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Funny thing about Siren, is it's people who can stun/silence that make their job harder if they don't stun/silence Lunatic Voice.

Haukke Manor Hard spam gives pretty good myth per time spent. I personally like it better than WP spam...

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Originally Posted by Zaels

Haukke Manor Hard spam gives pretty good myth per time spent. I personally like it better than WP spam...

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I got Haukke HM on Duty Roulette last night. 30 minutes later I walked away with 90 Myth.

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They are fun and a quick source of Myth. I can't imagine wanting to do AK/WP anymore.

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Originally Posted by ispano

Funny thing about Siren, is it's people who can stun/silence that make their job harder if they don't stun/silence Lunatic Voice.

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Not getting Lunatic Voice stunned/silenced makes life miserable for me as a healer...
While it's probably possible to live through that with leech/esuna, there is no reason why I should work that much harder when it's totally preventable.