Provoke + Shield Lob (or Tomahawk)?

Provoking a newly spawned mob does help in some instances where the mob spawned at the same time a big heal went out from one of your healers

Sometimes preloading your combo doesn't work out

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Originally Posted by Remmadar

Provoking a newly spawned mob does help in some instances where the mob spawned at the same time a big heal went out from one of your healers

Sometimes preloading your combo doesn't work out

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In that case you healer screwed up. Most healers know not to toss out AoE heals as adds pop.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

If you already built some hate, provoke will lower your enmity.

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No, it won't. It will provide 1 more enmity than you had when you used it. It places you at highest enmity +1, and, if you're currently tanking, that means that you'll have highest enmity.

Don't rely on shield lob/provoke. Save Spirits Within for moments like this. A combed savage blade saving a rage of halone, WHM pull agro, provoke use rage of halone + spirits within = your mob forever.

Shield lob is only good as an opener for pulling, that is basically all. It takes a matter of 500 damage or 1k healing to pull agro off a voke/lob. It takes around 1.8k dmg and 3.6k healing to pull agro off voke +spirits + a saved RoH.

Also this is an issue with you not managing your agro meters between each mob.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

No, it won't. It will provide 1 more enmity than you had when you used it. It places you at highest enmity +1, and, if you're currently tanking, that means that you'll have highest enmity.

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I have the feeling provoke "ignores" yourself and if you are on the top of the hate list it will just put you 1 point of hate over the second on the list.
Hope my english makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

I have the feeling provoke "ignores" yourself and if you are on the top of the hate list it will just put you 1 point of hate over the second on the list.
Hope my english makes sense.

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Feelings don't matter. What matters is empirical evidence. You can test this yourself, or you can just accept my word (and that of Kitru) that Provoke will not lower your threat.

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

I have the feeling provoke "ignores" yourself and if you are on the top of the hate list it will just put you 1 point of hate over the second on the list.
Hope my english makes sense.

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Definitely doesn't lower your hate. You can test it in 1 minute.