Nerf sleep or buff Purify, pick one.

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Originally Posted by xenovexus

I'm getting slept five times or more in pvp matches, and my one purify does shit.

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Neither. Get sleep resist materia. It has an impact. Also enhance purify to reduce the cooldown.

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yeah. recast time of purify is a joke.

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No, it's not. You need to choose when to use it strategically. it would be OP if you could remove every debuff that came your way. Our Purify is also better than the same thing in WoW and other games too, as it removes all debuffs and not just crowd control.

Sleep can be removed by esuna / leeches, and is also removed by damage, unlike stuns which while shorter cannot be removed by anything other than purify.

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Could you please inform your strategy as healer when you are a blm in charge of you ? You only have one purify and diminishing returns is useless so you sleep permanently all along the fight with or without your purify skill.

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First, if they have a BLM, your team needs to initially spread out a little bit. That's important. Next, target blm first. They may have swiftcast their first sleep so you have time to beat him up before he can get an easy one off again. Dump all your PvP attacks and cooldowns to dispatch him quickly. Another thing you can do is force the enemy to fight you near someone who is slept in the hope that they will inadvertently use an AoE attack.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

First, if they have a BLM, your team needs to initially spread out a little bit. That's important. Next, target blm first. They may have swiftcast their first sleep so you have time to beat him up before he can get an easy one off again. Dump all your PvP attacks and cooldowns to dispatch him quickly. Another thing you can do is force the enemy to fight you near someone who is slept in the hope that they will inadvertently use an AoE attack.

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So you hope an inadvertently AOE use ! As a blm in a premade team i will use switcast and equanimity 20s --> easy way to permanently sleep a healer, dont forget pld can use testudo and heal can keep me alive easily

Resistance materia review will be great, I dont really know reduction in seconds of +10 sleep resistance

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As a blm in a premade team i will use switcast and equanimity 20s --> easy way to permanently sleep a healer

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How does this permanently sleep a healer with purify? Even if the healer has zero sleep materia and food resist buffs, how are you sleeping more than 26 seconds? Regardless of what you use first- if purify is used (and who doesn't have this), how are you getting more than 26 seconds in before immunity?

Problem is diminishing returns dont make a total sleep immunity after the 3rd sleep all along you are in combat. you can sleep again with 30s duration.

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Originally Posted by Edenlys

Problem is diminishing returns dont make a total sleep immunity after the 3rd sleep all along you are in combat. you can sleep again with 30s duration.

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I did not suggest that diminishing grant immunity for the entire match. I was referencing the validity of your statement that you have an easy way of permanently sleeping the healer. You have an advantage of being in a premade so it is unlikely you will have people casting over you creating early diminishings or breaking your sleeps but after those 26 seconds (at most depending on what you cast when), you have 45 seconds to a minute after that before sleep can be used again on that healer otherwise he/she is immune.

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Originally Posted by Edenlys

So you hope an inadvertently AOE use ! As a blm in a premade team i will use switcast and equanimity 20s --> easy way to permanently sleep a healer, dont forget pld can use testudo and heal can keep me alive easily

Resistance materia review will be great, I dont really know reduction in seconds of +10 sleep resistance

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1 Status resist materia in each of the existing slots on your PvP gear reduces the duration about a third. If you overmeld, supposedly you can become nearly immune though this is obviously unverified with the current prices of the materia. You can also stack HQ resistance candy with this.

Personally being nearly always the first target as summoner, I am leaning towards stun resist instead of sleep because usually it's other people that get slept in order to beat me down first.

ITT: Scrubs who dont know how to PvP with coordinated teammates.

Take the first sleep, purify only if needed to save a teammate, and stun DPS if they try to start bursting anyone (BLM in particular has about 7 seconds worth of hard casting he has to do to properly burst).

If you guys want to see how sleep really is, take a BLM to rank 20+, and play vs some premades who know what to do vs sleep. You will see that not only is sleep very easy to counter, once it has been countered and DRs are up, said BLM will be doing close to nothing with any decent interrupt class shutting him down.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

1 Status resist materia in each of the existing slots on your PvP gear reduces the duration about a third. If you overmeld, supposedly you can become nearly immune though this is obviously unverified with the current prices of the materia. You can also stack HQ resistance candy with this.

Personally being nearly always the first target as summoner, I am leaning towards stun resist instead of sleep because usually it's other people that get slept in order to beat me down first.

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This isn't true. The amount it takes off isn't always the same, and is very low overall. Try some +5 sleep resist, it doesn't even get you under 28 secs every time.

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Originally Posted by Jyoeru

As I understood it, you can only be slept three times before you are fully immune for the rest of the match.

And, diminishing returns.

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Actually you're not fully immune, The sleep kicks back in within 2minutes of down time. I've seen someone recast a 30s sleep on me during a match.

I say take enhanced purify cd down to 90 seconds max. Also,

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Neither. Get sleep resist materia. It has an impact.

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The impact is minimal, very minimal. It can also take a very long time to get for some.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Also enhance purify to reduce the cooldown.

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If there were only 1 cc to deal with fine. But 150 seconds is simply too long for everything thrown at you.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

. Next, target blm first. They may have swiftcast their first sleep so you have time to beat him up before he can get an easy one off again. Dump all your PvP attacks and cooldowns to dispatch him quickly. Another thing you can do is force the enemy to fight you near someone who is slept in the hope that they will inadvertently use an AoE attack.

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So sleep isn’t op, but make sure to merc the blm? Got it.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

1 Status resist materia in each of the existing slots on your PvP gear reduces the duration about a third.

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So sleep is not op, but meld every open slot you have with sleep resist? Got it. That’s OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive btw.