Ex. Garuda- spiny plume fixing

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

It's intentional so tanks have something to do in the razor plume phase, and moving the plumes comes at a heavy cost. The possibility of it being a 1 tank fight might arise if it wasn't this way, which in all the new content SE is clearly determined to avoid.

Just as a observation all the ex primal fights are very tank heavy, I feel like SE is compensating for the fact that most of the content before it was rather boring for tanks and most could be one tanked, breaking the default party composition. If it is a overcompensation though I don't know, maybe

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Going kinda off topic, but I really hope SE finds more creative ways for double tanking than a pure "need to change tanks every X times enemy uses a certain move". The whole tanking switching strategy is the exact same for ADS, Ultima, Titan and Ifrit, and this will get old fast if new content uses the same trick to force 2 tanks.

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

Going kinda off topic, but I really hope SE finds more creative ways for double tanking than a pure "need to change tanks every X times enemy uses a certain move". The whole tanking switching strategy is the exact same for ADS, Ultima, Titan and Ifrit, and this will get old fast if new content uses the same trick to force 2 tanks.

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Agree. SE needs to make another content- this @tank switching@ already stupid

I sell my EM garuda tank services 100k pst.

To be honest I'm not sure how I would go about giving both tanks equal roles, maybe have lots of secondary agro mechanics but that could also be boring. The real kicker for tanks is that they have the hardest jobs in any of these fights, and their loot and weapons are the least enticing. The first guy I know who cleared ifrit EM was a pally and he geared his alts instead.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

To be honest I'm not sure how I would go about giving both tanks equal roles, maybe have lots of secondary agro mechanics but that could also be boring. The real kicker for tanks is that they have the hardest jobs in any of these fights, and their loot and weapons are the least enticing. The first guy I know who cleared ifrit EM was a pally and he geared his alts instead.

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Well the EM weapon for PLD is usefull if you want to make a DD gear for doing daily quests for example.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Well the EM weapon for PLD is usefull if you want to make a DD gear for doing daily quests for example.

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Axe is awesome if you aren't clearing T5. But it's the only reason I want to kill the Ex primals.

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Greetings. Why developers made spiny plume with agro, so only tanks can take it? Even DPS can not take spiny plume after 1-2 hits- agro is high. EX.Garuda is a great trial for tanks- to take clones, to take spiny plume. But almost impossible to find 2 good tanks without lags and knowing their class- warrior or paladin. Great amount of other players suffer because of tanks. Their role is absolute important here.

So, the Idea- to make spiny plume with ALWAYS ZERO AGRO, so it can be taken by any DPS using just one hit. spiny plume must not react on healing like on agro. Thank you

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Garuda isnt so bad. If you are having trouble now, wait until you try titan.

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Originally Posted by MomoOG

I sell my EM garuda tank services 100k pst.

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This is sad

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Originally Posted by AdvancedWind

Going kinda off topic, but I really hope SE finds more creative ways for double tanking than a pure "need to change tanks every X times enemy uses a certain move". The whole tanking switching strategy is the exact same for ADS, Ultima, Titan and Ifrit, and this will get old fast if new content uses the same trick to force 2 tanks.

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CT behemoth OT is fun. Just stand and hit towers over and over.

Tank switch.
Deal with adds
Activate object

Dunno what else they can make an OT do.

not seeing a problem with spiny plumes, you have the off tank provoke it, flash it without damaging it and hold hate, have the off tank inform main tank if there are 2 stacks of super cyclone debuff and have him provoke it off, top it off with flash (while dodging slipstream). if your tanks can't even do that then better find ones that can.