How is Summoner parsing?

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

People cried foul when they nerfed smn by removing thunder,but ya sure dont hear them saying a peep about their ninja buff.Summons affected by spellspeed now.Summon your garuda and go in some dummies.Pets got a pretty decent dps increase.i got aroundish 500 ss with my smn so im enjoing this alot

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1. There was no buff
2. One extra wind blade per 25 casts isn't that big a deal. Spellspeed still sucks

@kevee I was wondering where you went.

@Neon saving 2 aether for bane/fester when you can is great for gaols

Oh Kevee, you too got banned ? Well... Panda was too ?

They're still parsing in the same way for my static group, it's just not as exaggerated as before. SMN is the lowest dps on his own by 3-5 dps, and then he becomes the best by 10-15 DPS once you add in the pet. Before the change, they would be top by 25-35 dps.

Did somebody fix the parser? Because I thought that "the forums" all decided ages ago that the parser was complete poo for sorting out SMN DPS because it would assign the Fester damage to the entire DoT (or some nonsense like that). Not sure myself as I've never used the parsers (just depended on you kind folk for your input).

Summoner dps is ridiculous. Trust yoshi when he says SMN's dps is still one of the best. Don't rely on parsers to measure SMN's dps. We were doing titan ex and one dps had to leave, we replaced him with a SMN and the difference was clearly noticeable. The heart was dying right after LS before the SMN was there. Once we had the SMN, the heart was dying b4 or while titan was placing the circular bombs.

If you experience issues with not killing all the nails in ifrit in the last phase, have a SMN dot all the nails possible and dps problem will be resolved. My FC tank told me he downed ifrit in a df party where two SMN's has all white accessories.

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Originally Posted by Darkshneider

People cried foul when they nerfed smn by removing thunder,but ya sure dont hear them saying a peep about their ninja buff.Summons affected by spellspeed now.Summon your garuda and go in some dummies.Pets got a pretty decent dps increase.i got aroundish 500 ss with my smn so im enjoing this alot

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The sad part is, a lot of Summoners don't even realize our egi's have been adjusted. I've had many posts before talking about it and they keep telling me, "How is it a buff when they did nothing to the egi" Anyone who says that does NOT know their own class and how it works. OR they use obey all the time so the egi higher damage doesn't show.

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Originally Posted by Panteleon

Did somebody fix the parser? Because I thought that "the forums" all decided ages ago that the parser was complete poo for sorting out SMN DPS because it would assign the Fester damage to the entire DoT (or some nonsense like that). Not sure myself as I've never used the parsers (just depended on you kind folk for your input).

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No parsers still don't record correctly (for all jobs) but people require them to make themselves feel better, so they keep reading them as 100% accurate when a lot of dot damage doesn't get recorded correctly, Shadow Flare doesn't register properly. Parsers are garbage still, but people need their epeen stroked.

Parsers are mostly fine. Results are the most erroneous on SMNs because they tend to not deal with Contagion or Shadow Flare. However, missing ~15% of a Summoner's DPS is easily accounted for. The SMN in your group parsing for 100 dps with a 55 dps pet is still sucking, no matter how much error you make-believe the parsers have.


Edit: For nails, Summoners should be tab-DoTing starting like 4 nails ahead or so. Only put 1 DoT on each, highest potency in the lowest duration. Set pet to nuke whatever the DPS train is on.

This. Parsers are fine. It might not parse SMN dps with 100 accuracy but still... you can see when X people suck or not. Just compare his dps to the other dps.... if he's really behind... there's a problem.

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Originally Posted by Hiroradius

The sad part is, a lot of Summoners don't even realize our egi's have been adjusted. I've had many posts before talking about it and they keep telling me, "How is it a buff when they did nothing to the egi" Anyone who says that does NOT know their own class and how it works. OR they use obey all the time so the egi higher damage doesn't show.

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To add some more clarity since you seem to have missed Kevee's post, tooltips were updated to show the affect of spell speed and having your pet on Obey (Garuda) is still higher dps than letting them use all their abilities with the default Sic AI. The default attack is their most potent ability still.

edit: Ifrit does more DPS on Sic since Crimson Cyclone functions as an oGCD skill unlike Garuda's skills. But it has Stun so it becomes an issue on certain fights.