Bard - Foe Requiem Song - any recent changes?

He's probably reserving his mana, for................................. NOTHING!

If you don't need mage ballad or the TP song... use requiem. I love it when you do that. It's just so good to pop RS and dot a boss affected by x2 requiem and then use contagion. God. I love it.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Boosting a BLM or SMN's dps by 30% isn't worth it?

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If you have to inject mana into your healer's veins all the time, then it isn't, no.
Otherwise it is.

Just a matter of that

How do you guys get 30%? It would only be 20% per magic DPS and that is with battlevoice. Don't go crazy with that figure either, it would only be up for 30 seconds and you got to divide that avantage by the whole party, you'll be lucky to get a 3-4% DPS boost from the whole battle.

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Originally Posted by Venom

How do you guys get 30%? It would only be 20% per magic DPS and that is with battlevoice. Don't go crazy with that figure either, it would only be up for 30 seconds and you got to divide that avantage by the whole party, you'll be lucky to get a 3-4% DPS boost from the whole battle.

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Not just this, outside of boss fights, the Requiem will grab anything within hearing distance of it straight towards the Bard. Used it once in AK, I was grabbing the aggro of the enemies before the tank ever did just because the mobs HEARD the song.

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Originally Posted by Venom

How do you guys get 30%? It would only be 20% per magic DPS and that is with battlevoice. Don't go crazy with that figure either, it would only be up for 30 seconds and you got to divide that avantage by the whole party, you'll be lucky to get a 3-4% DPS boost from the whole battle.

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First note that he mentioned it increases the magic DPS's value by 30%
Also, it's a reduction in enemy defense, the larger the enemy magical defense is, the more powerful Foe Requiem is. Normally it's worth it in caster-heavy parties, like SMN/BLM/BLM/BRD

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Originally Posted by Venom

How do you guys get 30%? It would only be 20% per magic DPS and that is with battlevoice. Don't go crazy with that figure either, it would only be up for 30 seconds and you got to divide that avantage by the whole party, you'll be lucky to get a 3-4% DPS boost from the whole battle.

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Requiem lower the magic def by 10%, which can result in a 15% dmg buff

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Not just this, outside of boss fights, the Requiem will grab anything within hearing distance of it straight towards the Bard. Used it once in AK, I was grabbing the aggro of the enemies before the tank ever did just because the mobs HEARD the song.

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Well, if you're not aware enough in your surrounding and just turning it on the whole time and not just in safe spot, you're doing it wrong.

Long story short, whether there's only one DPS caster around or your Healer is doing some DPS, it is always good to cast Foe Requiem.

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Originally Posted by Skies

If you have to inject mana into your healer's veins all the time, then it isn't, no.
Otherwise it is.

Just a matter of that

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Right, but, he said 4 mans. I've never once that I can recall needed to ballad in a 4 man.

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Originally Posted by Venom

How do you guys get 30%? It would only be 20% per magic DPS and that is with battlevoice. Don't go crazy with that figure either, it would only be up for 30 seconds and you got to divide that avantage by the whole party, you'll be lucky to get a 3-4% DPS boost from the whole battle.

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As noted in the OP, the 10% reduction for whatever reason seems to be a 15% damage increase, 30% with BV. And most burn phases don't last that long. Heck, if we're talking 4-mans, most boss fights only last 2 minutes or less with the gear levels people have now.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Not just this, outside of boss fights, the Requiem will grab anything within hearing distance of it straight towards the Bard. Used it once in AK, I was grabbing the aggro of the enemies before the tank ever did just because the mobs HEARD the song.

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Learn the dungeon, learn where you can and can't sing. Too easy.

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Originally Posted by Jyoeru

So the question I have is when do we use it? With a long cast time, and toxic mana drain, do we need to precast then drop then recast and drop when someone in the group is going to use abilities this will enhance? If I leave it on for any duration of time, my mana goes kaboom, and I have nothing left for more of this or for ballad. Just curious.

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You use Foe's Requiem during Burst DPS Phases like Titan Heart, Dreadnoughts, Snakes, and etc. Or you use it to finish something off for an execute or kill-shot. I would only Battle Voice Foe's Requiem if you have another bard or if the healer's MP is above 80%, since it does have a 3 minute recast time.