The problem with allowing Turn 2 Rage strat

If people want to take longer for a guaranteed win go for it. If you want to finish it normal in 4-5 mins then do it that way. Who cares?

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Originally Posted by Ruri

Who cares?

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Well, the OP aparently thinks it is a big deal.
And there seem to be a couple that think the same as him.

I guess they are in that fortunate position where they don't have to worry about what's actually important.

They are just mad because they did it the hard way, and now people have found an easier way.

Bitter queens.

I heard turn 2 was hard and a exploit was needed to kill it.

Well, apparently you guys read bullet point 3 and ignored 1, 2, and 4. There are worse consequences to allowing this method than "scrubs get more easy gear". And that is that it unbalances the jobs looking for T4 groups.

You seem to be forgetting that a majority of the FFXIV community thought that sleeping Conflags on Twintania was an intended mechanic.

Honestly, the average skill level of players on FFXIV is extremely low compared to other MMOs (particularly World of Warcraft). I don't know why this is, but as a result, they're going to lobby around any sort of exploit that makes encounters manageable for their lack of skills/reaction speed.

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Originally Posted by Yenn

Honestly, the average skill level of players on FFXIV is extremely low compared to other MMOs (particularly World of Warcraft).

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Not true in the slightest. WoW has plenty of bad players and they have their fair share of people who'll exploit anything they can find.

The difference is that they have 12 million people (or they did, I know know anymore) compared to our 600 thousand people. If, maybe, 1% of players from each game were good players we would have 6 thousand good players and WoW would have 120 thousand good players. You're obviously going to see more good players in WoW than you would in FFXIV simply because they have more players.

The majority of exploit abusers are just impatient people who can't be bothered taking 20 minutes to do a dungeon, so abuse exploits so it takes 15 minutes instead. The MMO space is an extremely competitive one. We race to get the best gear and highest levels in order to not fall behind, it just so happens that the majority of MMO players grew up believing you couldn't complete GTA without the Health cheat, so they're too accustomed to cheating to get what they want.

Not to mention WoW's combat is so simple in comparison to FFXIV. You just stand there doing nothing with little space for error the majority of the time compared to something like Titan.

Shall we also start Q_Q ing about locking out mobs in WP? Obviously not working as intended.

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Originally Posted by SanjuroXI

Whine thread

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Conjurer is upset he has to lot against 2 other mages, basically.

The funny thing is you can do this quite comfortably with 2 decent healers + bard.

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Regardless of the fact that SE hasn't said or done anything yet, I guarantee they will.

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They have, and they said they won't be. It's officially not an exploit.

fck that. as far as i see it someone found a smart way to deal with it, without exploiting anything or hacking. just letting you know exploit is abusing a bug, and the enrage is not a bug. Some ppl just feel entitled, and prolly jelly that some1 found a smarter way to down turn 2 than how they've been doing it. definitely seems like the op is pulling reasons out of his ass just to make his argument sound remotely valid >_>"