Dungeon leaver penalty issues.

As others have said, votekick someone or wait for someone to leave party via timing out. As long as you are not the FIRST person to leave the party you will not get a penalty.

I can confirm using the entrance to exit the Dungeon will not incur the 30 minute ban as of last night.

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Originally Posted by Cigaran

I can confirm using the entrance to exit the Dungeon will not incur the 30 minute ban as of last night.

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It will if you're the first one out.

I've just encountered these kinds of issues for the first time tonight. I had a PUG do nothing but trash talk after a failed Garuda until I left. I didn't realize the timer had been increased to 30 minutes, and to make matters worse I didn't realize that it would also prevent me from going back in with a group I organized myself. Frankly I lost my temper over the whole thing (since there's literally no recourse), and if my FC hadn't talked me down I might have walked away from the whole game on the spot. Overreacting, maybe, but absolutely unacceptable policy.

That's just my experience, but the point is that it's experiences like that that incentivize the kind of behavior people are complaining about here, and I'm so furious about it I had to come and complain. Sure, I could have gained the benefit of knowing what would happen if I bent to the pressure and left, but I'm out my time whether I leave or whether I stick around for a half hour valiantly defending my honor while the clock runs down. If this is the system I have to work with, what am I going to do next time? The same thing everyone else is: game it. That's the behavior that the system rewards.

when the first person drops you can leave without any penalty.

Unless as stated above, the party is full again. If you leave with a full group, even if someone had left the group prior, you get the penalty.

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Originally Posted by Drako

Unless as stated above, the party is full again. If you leave with a full group, even if someone had left the group prior, you get the penalty.

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This is not true. If someone has left the group already, anyone else who leaves will not get a penalty. Players who join an in-progress run are free to leave at anytime without taking a penalty.

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Originally Posted by Xhieron

it would also prevent me from going back in with a group I organized myself.

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Set someone else as party leader and have them queue up, worked at least before patch. Not from day one but after a smaller patch. We had a party member on penalty but the party leader was still able to queue us up as it was a premade. This was just before patch.

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Originally Posted by Archona

This is not true. If someone has left the group already, anyone else who leaves will not get a penalty. Players who join an in-progress run are free to leave at anytime without taking a penalty.

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This is 100% false. If the group is FULL. You leave, you take the hit. I've done it myself, you get the penalty.