Dear Tanks

Yeah I can't see why anyone isn't in a full damage build in pvp, sorry you've had people that think they should be using shield oath ...

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Originally Posted by Nenin

... I haven't been Covered by a PLD once ...

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Cover is all of about useless in PvP. It's range is far to short to actually help you for any real amount of time. Unless your asleep, and then me running over to pop cover is like saying, "Hey we're all lumped up now, come sleep me too." If your bound then chances are by the time I get in cover range your moving again and breaking cover. Tanks don't have a teleport of any kind, otherwise this might happen more.

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Originally Posted by Rawkzor

Oh man Nenin, I agree. I watch streams of others playing, and I see so many DPS and tanks smacking all the sleeping targets. In their defense though, it's been very rare to see WHM/BLMs mark the target they are casting sleep on. Just making a macro to mark the sleeping target, and say in party that you are sleeping a target should help reduce this.

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Seriously, marking targets is by far the simplest form of communication and can really make a team seem to actually be a team. Mark the sleepers, and more importantly mark the focus. Saying, "Ok get the BLM first." only works if there's only one BLM. Saying, "Ok kill casters." when facing a team of BLM, BLM, WHM, WAR is simply fail.
Use markers ... win.

done ~ 200 matches as war q'ing with drg so we got a pug heal and a 2nd dps, ~80% win rate so far

for some reason, most ppl ask tanks to "harass heal" which is plain retarded.

war's do sick burst dmg, if not for multiple cc's or benediction, war can kill anyone in under 5-6sec alone

pld on the other hand are good to annoy ppl with no cd stuns, flashes and cover on focus target.


overall, i'd say the outcome of any pvp game, if weightd in %, depends on: your healer (40%), dps (40%), tank (20%).

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Originally Posted by Enfarious

Cover is all of about useless in PvP. It's range is far to short to actually help you for any real amount of time. Unless your asleep, and then me running over to pop cover is like saying, "Hey we're all lumped up now, come sleep me too." If your bound then chances are by the time I get in cover range your moving again and breaking cover. Tanks don't have a teleport of any kind, otherwise this might happen more.


Seriously, marking targets is by far the simplest form of communication and can really make a team seem to actually be a team. Mark the sleepers, and more importantly mark the focus. Saying, "Ok get the BLM first." only works if there's only one BLM. Saying, "Ok kill casters." when facing a team of BLM, BLM, WHM, WAR is simply fail.
Use markers ... win.

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Cover is a direct counter to physical heavy teams who rely on Holmgang to initiate their burst.


I always mark the primary target and discuss the general CC plan but plans change. It's virtually impossible for me to mark every slept target due to the AOE nature of CC. Do you really need me to mark every target hit by Freeze to know not to hit them? Freeze doesn't even have a primary target like Sleep. It's not like I have ample time to tab mark when I have a DRG, BRD, and WAR chasing me around.

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Originally Posted by Nenin

In just under 300 games played I haven't been Covered by a PLD once.

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Perhaps there's a reason for this...

Well, one benefit of having tanking gear in PVP is that people will ignore you. You can basically do all kinds of hell when you are invisible lol (well, limited edition kind of hell...)