So the "no BRD" shouts have begun, thanks Yoshi P

Brds seem continue to think that DPS is what they're there for. Your a support class your not there to do as much damage as a blm or drg, your there to enhance every else's performance

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3. RoD now evasion down......

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Still useful, you can use less accuracy gear with a brd in the party.

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Tooltip error. Nothing here was changed.

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This, i've observed no difference in damage

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Brds seem continue to think that DPS is what they're there for.

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They queue as a DPS and are supposed to be competent at it. They simply have abilities that are centered around helping their party members. The problem was they did too much damage. They really were among the best DPS in the game so even trading 20% damage for a buff they were still pretty strong. That's why they got nerfed.

I have yet to see a "no brd" shout. most people are smart enough to know that they are still an amazing utility class and they are vital in many things, especially coil 2 and 4.

Best group for me :

Paladin, warrior (thanks for him the 10% reduction damage, the chain, the big dps while off tank), the dragoon (thanks for his burst), the bard (thanks for his balad / requiem), the white mage and sch, one black mage and a monk.

exemple on ultima arma, while i main tank and take the debuff on me, the warrior are not in defi and burst the boss.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

They queue as a DPS and are supposed to be competent at it. They simply have abilities that are centered around helping their party members. The problem was they did too much damage. They really were among the best DPS in the game so even trading 20% damage for a buff they were still pretty strong. That's why they got nerfed.

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That's true but even thought hey queued up as dps they had a healer LB. it seemed pretty clear they didn't have a clear picture what brds were supposed to be. But at its design it's supposed to be a support class before a DD. Now that they balanced that to make it more like what it should be, there are still a lot of brds thinking they should be doing as much damage as a blm. I heard a lot of people complaining about RoD nerd, saying that it's completely useless now because brds have near 100% accuracy anyway. And that the sign that that person is not playing brd the way it should be because they're overlooking the fact that the evasion down benefits the whole party not just the brd.

You certainly don't want to stack too many bards in a party but the nerf was negligible, it added maybe added 30secs to our Tier 4 clear time. Bard are still solid DPS in a party but quite a few of them are pretty terrible. We have two bards and a SMN in our tier 4 group which is one of your more intense DPS races and we still cleared it with ease using the same gear as the week before.

On another note the 20% damage cut for actually "supporting the party" is a slap in the face to be honest as we were not the top DPS before the update and we certainly are not after.

Bad players shouted for 2brd's, now the bad players shout for no brd..

At Op, deal with it or change jobs.

The cross class skills got nerfed for everyone not just Bard.
So B4B only does 10% more damage for everyone using it as cross class skill.
BRDs still do good damage even after the cross class skills got tweaked.

The only real loss to BRD was RoD's 10% damage reduction, that's all.

Stop whinnying for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Wobi

You certainly don't want to stack bards in a party but the nerf was negligible, it added maybe added 30secs to our Tier 4 clear time. Bard are still solid DPS in a party but quite a few of them are pretty terrible. We have two bards and a SMN in our tier 4 group which is one of your more intense DPS races and we still cleared it with ease using the same gear as the week before.

On another note the 20% damage cut for actually "supporting the party" is a slap in the face to be honest as we were not the top DPS before the update and we certainly are not after.

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We have two bards in our coil group and we cleared 1-4 faster this week than any week before. Threat changes to tanks where a big dps boost for everyone on stuff like T4.

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Originally Posted by SirSaber

At Op, deal with it or change jobs.

The cross class skills got nerfed for everyone not just Bard.
So B4B only does 10% more damage for everyone using it as cross class skill.
BRDs still do good damage even after the cross class skills got tweaked.

The only real loss to BRD was RoD's 10% damage reduction, that's all.

Stop whinnying for nothing.

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Nice gear bro, you must be a BRD expert!

One bard is still required for the hardest content in the game.