Huge SMN nerf: we're losing Thunder

I'm going to be fair and say we did need our numbers adjusted. We also have major game-breaking issues that need to be addressed, and weren't.

I will say they WENT AFTER IT THE WRONG WAY.

-Sustain costing MP. We already have MP problems.
-Change to Allagan Boots. Why would you change the piece TWO CLASSES have access to, instead of changing the AF2?
-Loss of Thunder. We now don't even have 5 useful cross-class skills. Now we can use Ruin more! How fun! This by itself is a ~10% loss in DPS, and a massive reduction in how active the class/job is.


Things that need to be fixed:
-Pets get no benefit from food.
-Pets get no benefit from passive party buffs based on job/class.
-Ifrit is useless.
-Titan is useless, except for soloing.
-Titan/Ifrit suffer from a skill bug where it has a 4s CD instead of 3s for their main attacks.
-PET RESPONSIVENESS
-Pets have a MUCH HIGHER accuracy cap than the player.

Anything else I forgot? I can't think at the moment. Ugh.

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

Allagan boots changes is a nerf to both of us. Please do note BLM got nerfed and freeze changes does not make it any better than the garbage it was and still is.

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How is it a nerf to BLM when your AF2 has the SAME STATS?
Are you kidding me?

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Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR

Just cast more ruin.

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One cast of ruin is 3x as weak as one cast of Thunder.

You can't cast "more" ruin.

It's ONE CAST.

It's a loss of ~10% DPS, and makes for more BORING gameplay--As if we don't use Ruin enough already.





**** this daily posting limit. Ugh.

So mad, I want to tell off these people that don't know how to play.
"Just cast more ruin"?
I hope you're joking.
"Thunder wasn't useful."
Yeah, I know who to never take seriously again.
"Sustain change isn't bad."
LOL

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Originally Posted by Tano

Wth are you talking about? SMN has slow burst, but has the highest overall dps of all classes. Parser with equally equipped/skilled players confirmed that multiple times.
I rarely used Thunder in my rotation since I only use it when all other DoTs are up and I have Fester on cd. Of course it's a nerf (not 10% of the overall damage i must say, maybe 3%), but SMN dps was the highest.

Now it's Ruin II spam when you have DoTs/Fester up for more burst (that is actually what SMN lacked) and 2% less overall DPS (to be proven).

I think it's still the best ranged DPS in the game (if you can use it).

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Another person who has no idea what they're talking about.

I'll live. Maybe this means they'll finally fix Aero so we can equip it.

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Maybe this means they'll finally fix Aero so we can equip it.

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It's a tooltip error.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

I'll live. Maybe this means they'll finally fix Aero so we can equip it.

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Aero is worse than Thunder.

That change to Allagan boots is really just...sigh SE.

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Originally Posted by Lelouch001

That change to Allagan boots is really just...sigh SE.

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I can agree with changing pieces of gear with the same stats.

I do not agree changing a piece of gear that is used by another class, and it's arguable that they changed it to better suit BLM!

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Originally Posted by Kevee

I do not agree changing a piece of gear that is used by another class, and it's arguable that they changed it to better suit BLM!

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not really, its the same nerf for BLM.
Now, its impossible to hit the precision cap with the allagan set. The stats on the boots now sux both for BLM and SMN.

We spend 3 month to get the best mixt possible for our gear set and they destroy everything with one update...

Allagan boots changes is a nerf to both of us. Please do note BLM got nerfed and freeze changes does not make it any better than the garbage it was and still is.

I am speechless... I went to the battle changes looking for what was going to happen to ARC/BRD and instead found my main job getting totally destroyed... Now Shadow Flare also wakes up monsters... Let me say that they forgot to have Baned DoTs wake them up to, just putting it out there so we can get the full nerf right now.

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Originally Posted by BloodPact

I am speechless... I went to the battle changes looking for what was going to happen to ARC/BRD and instead found my main job getting totally destroyed... Now Shadow Flare also wakes up monsters... Let me say that they forgot to have Baned DoTs wake them up to, just putting it out there so we can get the full nerf right now.

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Don't give them that idea. D: