2.1 Crystal Tower

Disappointing.....

This is heart breaking. My fc runs 6 bcob groups and we have been so looking forward to finally getting to play together. What's the point in 24 man if 16 aren't my friends?

This wouldn't work on Moogle but has any considered going into DF at the same time as your other groups with only "French listed"

Would DF match you together? On the JP cluster since no one picks French under language.

I am strangely comfortable with this. At this point, most HC gamers would only be gearing their other "alt" classes. Im glad its duty finder friendly. If you do not run Coil, there is not much to do... and coil only takes a couple of hours a day once you get it all down.

This gives me LOTS of options sitting right at my finger tips instead of sitting in town spamming to fill up a 24 man raid. Look how hard it is to get chimera/hydra/titan/coil groups together. I would rather spend my time playing instead of forming groups.

Also, they are giving another form of gear progressions outside of darklight ct/wp spamming. That system broke quite a few players. I think they are making strong strides forward.

Progression for casual to semi-hardcore players, maybe.

Meanwhile, I foresee hardcore players not renewing their subs.

idk, most people who consider themselves casual play this game at a minimum of 5x as much as me and more often closer 10-20x many hours a week as I do.

Outside of the hour in Coil and the hour not really caring about WP I don't log into this game and I haven't run a different schedule in almost 3 months. It doesn't much more casual than that.

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Originally Posted by snarkasaur

The whining over this is kind of ridiculous. It's not ideal, but I doubt it's permanent. I'd rather have the dungeon out and play with 8 FC buddies than wait for another two months.

I also wonder if maybe it's 24 man, but you're split up into groups of 8, ala Phoenix Cave from FF6. Theoretically that would be a cool idea, as long as one group wasn't messing up another group's progress in some way. Just spitting ideas.

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It isn't permanent. It was specifically said that just for now we won't be able to queue up as 24 people.

Sucks but I am happy there is no lockout like freaking Coil, so I can at least rotate members around.

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Originally Posted by Bayman

I am strangely comfortable with this. At this point, most HC gamers would only be gearing their other "alt" classes. Im glad its duty finder friendly. If you do not run Coil, there is not much to do... and coil only takes a couple of hours a day once you get it all down.

This gives me LOTS of options sitting right at my finger tips instead of sitting in town spamming to fill up a 24 man raid. Look how hard it is to get chimera/hydra/titan/coil groups together. I would rather spend my time playing instead of forming groups.

Also, they are giving another form of gear progressions outside of darklight ct/wp spamming. That system broke quite a few players. I think they are making strong strides forward.

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Your problem is that you need to form/join a HC Freecompany and not spam shout to pug Group Content

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Originally Posted by Estellios

It isn't permanent. It was specifically said that just for now we won't be able to queue up as 24 people.

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WHATS the point then ? they dont care about the progression communities in doing that, they need to release it as a 24 man group able to join and enter the instance they are shitting all over the end game players

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Originally Posted by Ceelo_Mage

Your problem is that you need to form/join a HC Freecompany and not spam shout to pug Group Content

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I am in a FC. I am in a static coil group. I have been running with the same group of friends since launch and most of them before this game came out. So... shush and leave your tropes to yourself.

Also, I got my relic with my FC. Unlike someone who had to pay another guild to do it for them.... http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-s%21%21/page6