Cover?

I'd use cover if the damage I was redirecting was mitigateable, but it isn't. The only thing I've seen work on cover damage is blocks.

Shield Oath, CDs, they have no effect on the cover damage you take so when you cover someone you're essentially them.

Good to know, scary too. I can really wipe it taking a hm primal hit using cover.

Good to know, scary too. I can really wipe it taking a hm primal hit using cover.

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Originally Posted by Phreak

I'd use cover if the damage I was redirecting was mitigateable, but it isn't. The only thing I've seen work on cover damage is blocks.

Shield Oath, CDs, they have no effect on the cover damage you take so when you cover someone you're essentially them.

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Pretty sure this isn't true. One of the strategies for Binding coil turn 1 that people have used involves a paladin covering the main tank and using hallowed ground. It is possible though that you take damage based on the defense of your cover target, though... in which case covering a mage while using a cooldown could seem like you are getting hit for the same as if you yourself were taking unmitigated damage.

Hmm, I wonder if testing has been done on this?

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Originally Posted by Ferth

Pretty sure this isn't true. One of the strategies for Binding coil turn 2 that people have used involves a paladin covering the main tank and using hallowed ground.

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Wait what? ADS basic attacks are magic damage so Cover shouldn't be able to block them and if you are going to Hallowed Ground, why wouldn't you just Provoke the mob and Hallowed Ground then? Then you can save Cover for something else.

I've used it in turn 5 on second pair of snake adds.

i use it when someone pulls hate from me. most trash does physical damage, so it works.

also i use it on slimes on turn 1 when a bard has to spawn it.

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Originally Posted by CurlyBruce

Wait what? ADS basic attacks are magic damage so Cover shouldn't be able to block them and if you are going to Hallowed Ground, why wouldn't you just Provoke the mob and Hallowed Ground then? Then you can save Cover for something else.

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Sorry, I meant turn 1.

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Originally Posted by Ferth

Pretty sure this isn't true. One of the strategies for Binding coil turn 1 that people have used involves a paladin covering the main tank and using hallowed ground. It is possible though that you take damage based on the defense of your cover target, though... in which case covering a mage while using a cooldown could seem like you are getting hit for the same as if you yourself were taking unmitigated damage.

Hmm, I wonder if testing has been done on this?

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Hallowed ground does not prevent cover damage or reduce it in any way, the damage the target would have taken equals the damage you WILL take when you cover someone. It's obvious you haven't tested this at all.

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Originally Posted by Phreak

Hallowed ground does not prevent cover damage or reduce it in any way, the damage the target would have taken equals the damage you WILL take when you cover someone. It's obvious you haven't tested this at all.

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Yeah, was going to say that. Been running a bunch of WP Speed-runs as a WHM recently; PAL uses Hallowed and Cover on some pulls, still takes damage.