about the swords of dalamud

Honestly to me Dalmund looked a lot like the spell that was being cast on Bahamut to lock him away at the end of 1.0. The 12 God symbols turned into swords and it started to look like a moon.

I'm fairly certain that the structure built by the Allag and the structure we see when the Twelve try to re-trap him are very differing things. The former was a complex machine, whereas the second is... a complicated matter. Louisoix harnessed the strength of the Twelve and it seems like they were responding to prayers that Dalamud be put back where it belongs. They may have just been answering the prayers very specifically. Regardless of what this manifestation of the Twelve was (I have my own theories, but it's a little baseless at this time to claim that the Twelve don't exist as we conceive of them and he was just harnessing prayer power to bend aether to his will), it wasn't rebuilding the Allag magitek as much as just trapping Bahamut. The swords on Aether-Dalamud bore unique symbols - but the original ones seem pretty uniform from what I can tell. You've got your two polar "key" pieces and a bunch of sticks. Image below.

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/...elveblades.png

Thank you moose I never noticed the difference in the waiting cutscene. The lore team keeps saying what is a God other then just an abnormal mortal given time for his story to become real and making him/her a God, to me this means the Gods aren't real, however the people of Earozea believe them to be so who anyone who is abnorm. strong becomes a physical manifest of the God like back in the Greek days. I ment in a since that I found it int. that the spell seemed to trap Bahamut in the same way that dalmund did. in a sphere with 12 locks pos. very similiarly. Considering that the allag were very tech. and magic. advanced I wouldn't be surprised if dalmund was a 2 part seal 1 being the spell first and 2 being the physical structure so that the ather is no longer drained from the land and can be restored. Or maybe the built dalmund after being inspired by the spell but knew that the spell could cause their own destruction? I'm sure you have theorys that have a lot more info. behind them.

What if the Twelve doesn't exist (really? XD) and the swords called by Louisoix are only a form of aether absorbed from everyone who prayed?

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Originally Posted by Alberel

I don't actually think the locations we see in Coil are the swords/spears. The craters at each of the Coil entrances (there are two others already in the game if you look closely) are made by actual chunks of the outer shell. The swords/spears are much much larger and few are actually anywhere near playable regions at the moment... only one I can think of off the top of my head is the one just on the edge of Mor Dhona.

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Places I can think of:

• The Saltstrand, Lower La Noscea
• Agelyss Wise, Castrum Occidiens (obviously)
• Boulder Downs, Coerthas
• Finder's Bluff, North Shroud
• Dalamud's Talons, Northern Thanalan
• The Burning Wall, Eastern Thanalan

Not counting Pharos Sirius, which is a little different.

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Originally Posted by Shyen

it was the airship/spaceship in FFVIII - "Lagunarock" in the EU version, which can very well be a bad transposition of 'Ragnarok' (given the japanese pronounciation of Ls and Rs, i think some adaptor thought to reverse the Rs into Ls... I call for inaccuracy;))

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I don't remember ever seeing Lagunarock in the original nor the Platinum Edition EU versions of the game I've owned.

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Originally Posted by Momita

What if the Twelve doesn't exist (really? XD) and the swords called by Louisoix are only a form of aether absorbed from everyone who prayed?

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This is more or less what I was saying. I agree.

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Originally Posted by Skies

I just need to put this in here... But while the Ragnarok is an event the cycle in which it happens is called the cycle of Apocatastasis and Epkyrosis...
No you go to your Black Mage and check your skills, one that grants you elemental defense named Apocatastasis (the time in which the world returns to it's original form) and when a person can't be buffed by it it has a debuff called Epkyrosis (the time in which the world is destroyed. Ragnarok is essentially the movement from Apocatastasis into Epkyrosis)

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Ooooh, you just pointed out some interesting details I had not seen yet. Thanks!

I remember yoshi-p saying that there are keys and they all over eorzea. You have to get all 12 keys which mean turn 1-5 was to get the first key which you do at the end if i remember right. Meaning the next step in the mission is to find the other keys.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Places I can think of:

• The Saltstrand, Lower La Noscea
• Agelyss Wise, Castrum Occidiens (obviously)
• Boulder Downs, Coerthas
• Finder's Bluff, North Shroud
• Dalamud's Talons, Northern Thanalan
• The Burning Wall, Eastern Thanalan

Not counting Pharos Sirius, which is a little different.

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I think you misunderstood me.

The locations you describe are not 'sword' impact sites, they're simply where pieces of rubble landed. The burning wall, boulder downs, etc. were just created by very large pieces of Dalamud's shell. The swords themselves are all intact and all have a very similar design with that electric blue magitek running through the middle. The one off the edge of Mor Dhona is instantly recognisable as it matches the ones we see in the End of an Era video. It also stands very very tall above the ground (much larger than the rubble in the impact sites for the Binding Coil entrances). That's why I'm quite sure that the coil dungeons aren't taking place inside those swords but rather just inside small fragments of Dalamud itself.