Consensus on PLD +1 vs AF2

Honestly, the sword is a godsend if you are AoE tanking. (shield too ofc). With +1 sword, your threat when taking the left route on turn 2 is better, and throttles the group less. Also, it makes it easier to hold AoE packs on turn 4, as you generate more threat with flash (yes it matters for flash too).

The two bits that (allegedly) drop from Turn 5 are the Headgear and Sword.
They're the most obvious ones to go for, aside from the Ring.

My gear progression is going to be RING (got) > BODY (getting this week once Myth is capped) > SWORD (two weeks away) > HEAD > WRIST > LEGS...
...followed by whatever gear hasn't dropped from coil by then.

Shield is an obvious cheaper upgrade to go for, but there are usually other upgrades that give you better Stat Boost return per Myth point over Darklight (not to mention that the Allagan Round Shield is normally better)

I *Hate* the look of the Darklight body piece, so I have stuck with Hoplite Body and Head (even doing Coil in them) though everything else is Darklight (including accessories, plus the aforementioned Heros Ring).
Technically the Allagan Body is a drop from Coil Turn 1, so I'll likely get it eventually... but the Valor Body and Wrist are "Best In Slot" for almost all of the possible gear setups, and the Legs are BIS for several others... :)

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Originally Posted by Aegrus

Honestly, the sword is a godsend if you are AoE tanking. (shield too ofc). With +1 sword, your threat when taking the left route on turn 2 is better, and throttles the group less. Also, it makes it easier to hold AoE packs on turn 4, as you generate more threat with flash (yes it matters for flash too).

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Honestly if you have any sort of threat issue anywhere in Coil without a +1 you have extremely serious tanking issues. The bit of additional threat you get is NOT one of the selling points for any tank who is good at what they do.

And Maelwys, the "most obvious" upgrades should be your weakest pieces. Do not rely on RNG to get gear, upgrade your weakest link, don't act like you'll just get a tanking piece "just because," that's bad planning.

i'm coordinating with my off tank for coil (who is a warrior.)

because he already has af2 chest, i will not be getting my chest. if i do, and the allagan chest drops on turn 1 for us: it becomes situationally useless to us.

so my gear progression will be head(aquired)-->legs(aquired)-->arms(next week)-->pants(if allagan does not drop for me)--->(jewlery that has yet to fall onto my lap in coil)--->sword--->chest (if allagan has yet to drop for me by this time.)

and i'm not relying on RNG, i simply don't want RNG to shaft my team.

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Originally Posted by Xbob42

And Maelwys, the "most obvious" upgrades should be your weakest pieces. Do not rely on RNG to get gear, upgrade your weakest link, don't act like you'll just get a tanking piece "just because," that's bad planning.

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They're the "most obvious" because very few FCs have cleared turn 5 and even if you've a regular coil party you're very unlikely to see them drop anytime soon... so therefore you're practically guaranteed to need them eventually. They're not the "most obvious" in terms of efficiency gains per point of myth spent.

I agree with your point - and that's exactly why I said I'm getting the Valor Body first (even though the Allagan body is technically a turn one drop).

If you're aiming for efficiency, then the upgrades you go for should be the pieces from which you'll get the highest benefit per point of myth tomes spent over what you're currently equipped with. In nearly all cases, that will be Heros Ring first, then whatever gives you the highest boosts to VIT/Parry/STR without dropping below the accuracy threshold for whatever parts of Coil you're doing.