"You need Voice Chat to do Coil"

You don't need voice chat if you know how to do it and you learn to do it by just doing it. Cast times? Be awake and focus target. Mob priority? Signs. Allagan Rot rotation? Signs.
Silencing? Macros. What else...

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Originally Posted by Roaminggnome

I think the op's point was if people feel this is needed to perform well in dungeons it should be an added feature for in game chat. Or was I mistaken?

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You aren't especially for people on consoles. I think it's a bit short sighted to assume we all have access to work arounds. Telling someone if they don't have said work around it 'a your fault is not a solution to the problem.

You don't "need" voice chat to do anything in this game. You do, however, need to know what you're doing. Voice chat makes it easier to find out what to do in real time if you don't already know.

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Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear

You aren't especially for people on consoles. I think it's a bit short sighted to assume we all have access to work arounds. Telling someone if they don't have said work around it 'a your fault is not a solution to the problem.

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I agree. Personally, if I had a laptop I would be playing this game on that instead of ps3. My desktop isnt anywhere near my ps3, either. Plus the fact, not everyone has a droid or iphone. I have skype on my phone, but mumble/vent/teamspeak aren't compatible with my current windows phone. I have no intention of upgrading my phone, or buying a tablet just for this game. So I'm sol unless I pug it, which isn't ideal but it's better than not doing it at all.

Yes voice chat is required just like communication is required just like group strategy is required, Coil is not meant for the pugs that like to type.

I think the issue is what's the point? No in-game voice chat system is ever as good as vent/TS/skype/steam, so why even put the time and effort of the devs into making an in-game voice chat system?

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Originally Posted by Raiz_Cineris

I use to use my laptop next to me when I play on ps3 and realized its too annoying to have so instead I downloaded TS3 on my Iphone and do just fine.

This is not a problem on anyone's part besides your own.

BTW did you just watch BG's vid of them downing Twintania? There is practically 0 chatter during the boss fight.

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They didn't talk much, but you also have to realize that they spent A LOT of hours on that fight so most of them have the flow and know the fight encounter like the back of their hand. With my guild, we are pretty quiet until we get to the divebomb phase, then we talk a little more.

VOIP sure makes Turn 2 and Turn 4 easier.

It shouldn't come to any surprise at all that VOIP makes organization easier for fairly difficult raid content.

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Originally Posted by Lisotte

I think the issue is what's the point? No in-game voice chat system is ever as good as vent/TS/skype/steam, so why even put the time and effort of the devs into making an in-game voice chat system?

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The reasons listed throughout the posts. Yes you can do it w/o the things you said. And if you have acess to them great. But if you don't? Then you're either SOL or gonna have to really study the content while other people get through it easier via 3rd party usage. How is this acceptable? It seems like a glaring oversight.

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Originally Posted by Merph

It's a requirement for most groups that run coil. It's not a requirement for coil. There's a difference.

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^That.

Find a new group.

You can't expect a pug or new FC to know how well you play without it if you've never done it with them before. Some people really do need to be told when to do what over voice because they aren't paying attention to everything going on (ie passing the rot).

If you're trying to get SE to add voice chat in game, they probably think it's a waste of resources for the very small minority of people that would actually use it. Come out and say what you want directly without beating around the bush, or necro an old thread about it :p