Steady Hand: Additive or Multiplicative?

I've never had standard fail on steady hands either and I've crafted all crafts to 25, and a few of them to 30. Alchemist is the only one to 40 so I don't have SHII yet.

Maybe your fails happened when steady hands runs out. I've been known to keep going after it ran out because I was distracted or just didn't notice it go away. I'm sure all of us crafters probably do that more than a few times each day.

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Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll

Unless it has been changed since release week, this is not true. (No patch notes mention a change) I had a Standard Touch Fail with Steady Hand. That's 80% + 20%? So, according to you, it didn't happen?

With Steady Hand I:

80% + (80% * 20%) = 96%

With Steady Hand II:

80% + (80% * 30%) = 104%

TL;DR - Multiplicative. Steady Hand II makes most skills over 100% chance, but it isn't added directly on top.

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It's additive, never had a SH + BT fail once since Beta 3 which is a miracle if it was really at 96% as you say.

I've had 98% chance of HQ fail and get an NQ item numerous times.

I believe it is additive, myself, however I do recall a specific window between updates where Steady Hand + Standard Touch did fail occasionally.

I remember this well because someone had just posed a question to me asking if Steady Hand was 10% or 20% and I told them 20% because I had never had this particular combination fail on me and I had been using it a great deal in a macro of mine. With hundreds of macroed trials I felt pretty confident of that. One day I logged in, started crafting with that macro, and things started to blow up on occasion. The first time I dismissed as a fluke, but it happened to me a small handful of times that day. Once the next update hit, though, it never happened again.

I don't think people who remember Steady Hands + Standard Touch failing are wrong, but are instead victim of a bug that crept in and out under the radar.

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Originally Posted by Valarian

I believe it is additive, myself, however I do recall a specific window between updates where Steady Hand + Standard Touch did fail occasionally.

I remember this well because someone had just posed a question to me asking if Steady Hand was 10% or 20% and I told them 20% because I had never had this particular combination fail on me and I had been using it a great deal in a macro of mine. With hundreds of macroed trials I felt pretty confident of that. One day I logged in, started crafting with that macro, and things started to blow up on occasion. The first time I dismissed as a fluke, but it happened to me a small handful of times that day. Once the next update hit, though, it never happened again.

I don't think people who remember Steady Hands + Standard Touch failing are wrong, but are instead victim of a bug that crept in and out under the radar.

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I'm pretty sure this was either Phase 2 or Phase 3.

Definitely addictive.

I have crafted thousands too and its additive. Never had SH +ST fail on me.