Elitism and How It Is Ruining The Gaming Community [Discussion, Feedback, and Rants]

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Originally Posted by HoroBoro

I try to pug primals because it's fun. I have relic and do Titan with people because it's fun. I do AK and WP pubs because it's fun.

If I stop having fun, I stop playing the game. Simple as that. Don't be so focused on progression. If you are, you're gonna not have fun.

Find people who want to do content with you. Screw those that try to force you into anything.

If you want to progress according to the rules of someone else, I think you're looking for a Job. Which is OK - some people like to play games that way. But if you do, you're gonna have to put up with jerks. Because in real life, there are jerks. And you have to deal with them.

But not in a game. You can do what you want here.

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Heh. The AK run was before I joined all of my LS's and my FC.

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I haven't played many MMO games, but from what I've read and understood, this is the worst endgame community anyone has been in.

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Stopped reading there. From what I'v actually experienced (not just read) the community is fine.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Stopped reading there. From what I'v actually experienced (not just read) the community is fine.

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From what I have experienced, it's what I described. Maybe it's different for each server?

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They won't last.

People with these kinds of attitudes have short attention spans. That's why they speed run and try to insist you skip cutscenes.* They will eventually get bored and those of us with some actual human DNA will remain.

* They can say whatever they want. I worked hard to get to L50 and when I did the last two quests, I refused to let them rush me. I watched all of them while they ran off without me, and I finished them just as they were finishing the last battle. They said I was leeching, despite me starting off with a message to the party, "I worked hard to get here, doing quests, leves, and dungeons. I did not take the easy route and do FATEs. Please be patient and allow me to watch the cutscenes." One person responded: "skippy skip."

While there are some absolute derps making life unpleasant by demanding you snap to attention after doing a backflip and killing daemon wall with a toothbrush, there are also groups who did the fail fail fail grind already and just want to gear. You'll join them eventually, might take two runs, might take fifty.

From the perspective of an AK veteran, I cannot wait for gear check limits to stop people going in with the Artifact (45 story armour) and equivalent weapons. WP is a totally different beast, that's the intermediate step where you gear for AK.

I refuse to take people without decent gear on AK farming runs because we want experience, competency and speed. However I also routinely take in new people in order to teach them - everyone has to start somewhere and learn. Sorry your experience has been tainted :(

Go troll the EVE Online forums for an hour if you want elitism.

Most people playing that and this though think it's all foolishness. Most people just play their damn game and log out.

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Originally Posted by CruciasNZ

]I refuse to take people without decent gear on AK farming runs because we want experience, competency and speed. However I also routinely take in new people in order to teach them - everyone has to start somewhere and learn. Sorry your experience has been tainted :(

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It's all good. I'm glad to see there are still people in this community that take new people in. It's people like you that give me hope that we can turn this community around. :)

It's up to the person setting up a run to determine what their requirements will be to join THEIR group. Their group = not your group. If somebody wants people to have full darklite and relic+1 to go run castrum, then so be it. They don't care that it can be done half naked with their bare hands as weapons, because they're going for speed and efficiency, not for the funsies of it.

Don't meet their requirements? Too bad. Nobody is making you join it.

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Originally Posted by rswfire

The problem here is that the elitists of FFXIV have no idea just how ignorant and unskilled they really are compared to those that play EvE! I'm far more irritated by elitists in FF than I am Eve, because in FF, everything is handed to them on a silver platter. They haven't the slightest clue what it means to actually work hard for something or use their intellect. They have zero patience and they're intolerant. Even the worst that Eve has to offer is better than what the elitists here think they have to offer.

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So if everything is handed to you on a silver platter, why don't you have everything? =o

And for that matter, if everything is sooo easy, why is it unreasonable or elitist to ask for these things in a party? If it takes you so little time and effort, then why are you so lazy that you can't equip yourself properly instead of whining about it on the forums?