Something that Blizzard does that I think SE should look in to.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hed

First off this is not a bashing thread This is about security of accounts.

Ever play WoW? I abashedly admit that I did for 3 years. However there is one thing that they did that was brilliant.

If you logged out from one IP address. Then someone tried to log in say, the next state/country ocean away they would automatically lock your account until you went in and changed your password. There was no investigation and no backlash to honest players. Except that you might lose some items or money that were loaded off your character while your account was accessed.

It's certainly a more sound tactic than suspending your customers for nothing.

Se needs to find something like this to do instead of banning their paying customers to the point that anyone who heard about this sort of thing would completely avoid the game. It certainly makes more sense than letting someone log in to an account that is NA based from China or where ever these bastards hail from. It may be a hassle if it happens repeatedly but I would rather this then locked out of my account for the next 12-18 days for something I didn't do.

---

Get a keyfob?

No seriously. I am sick of people saying 'SE should do this' 'SE should do that' when they already have done something.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by necrosis

Get a keyfob?

No seriously. I am sick of people saying 'SE should do this' 'SE should do that' when they already have done something.

---

There are also people who ALREADY have them and still got hacked. The point is that there are no pro active measurements that they have taken if something DOES happen. They only react. I'm sick of people acting like it's only the fault of the player.

You know they give you security measures to protect yourself. Maybe you should use it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Taeyeon

You know they give you security measures to protect yourself. Maybe you should use it.

---

Not everyone has a smartphone. Not everyone can afford to rush out and buy a security token. Not everyone who may have just decided to try out their first MMO knows of these security measures. So then, what are the options?

I made a suggestion for the safety of SE's customers and/or future customers. Could I have used the app for my phone? Yes, that was my bad. Did I go around to different sites looking for information on the game to best plot what to look for and where? Yes, that its what resulted in an extension to be added to my browser without my knowledge. Also my fault.

Does any of this mean that SE couldn't take an extra precaution for the benefit of their customer? No.

You were born with a brain, use it. If you don't like my suggestion be on your merry way. No one needs your condescending remarks.

The same type of people who dont read information that is given to them which states that for security measures they should use the one the key which is available on PC aswell I believe are the same type of people who usually dont read t&c's; although I am one of those people. They need to learn themselves, they also wouldve got an email to use the ine time key. Also people who get hacked even with the one time key deserve a medal. No one told me anything about this stuff when I first started.


Also In this day and age where kids
have iphones and what not, im sure people can spend under 100 to buy a "smartphone"

Pretty sure this is already in place? Back before I had a token in 1.x, I logged into the game from different 'countries' (I have to use vpn for gameplay smoothness) and I got temporarily blocked from even logging in until I sorted it out. During ARR beta I've seen people complain about being locked out of their account because they were trying to log in from multiple countries (trying to share account with friend during beta). I still need to use vpn (especially more so now that the server is in montreal) but ever since I used token, I dont have a country 'check' now, thankfully.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Taeyeon

The same type of people who dont read information that is given to them which states that for security measures they should use the one the key which is available on PC aswell I believe are the same type of people who usually dont read t&c's; although I am one of those people. They need to learn themselves, they also wouldve got an email to use the ine time key. Also people who get hacked even with the one time key deserve a medal. No one told me anything about this stuff when I first started.


Also In this day and age where kids
have iphones and what not, im sure people can spend under 100 to buy a "smartphone"

---

I absolutely hate my smartphone, the damn thing needs a recharge almost every day and becomes completely useless in if there's even a drop of water on the screen or below 0 degrees outside. Just ordered an 'old-school' phone, and it can't get here soon enough. I already have the sledgehammer waiting.

Sure, you can get a regular authenticator, but I don't really see the harm in additional precautions. To tell you the truth, I would very much prefer a system akin to Rift over the authenticator, or you know, both.

Quick question, why does the current ARR launcher not have a pop up keyboard/clicky for username/password/token whereas logging into the forum or account does?

Yes! Thank you! Its simple stuff and highly effective at lowering RMT! I personally prefer the coin lock method used by Trion where it pretty much blocked everything an RMT hacker would want... no long range chat, no access to inventory, gold, mail, gear, and a very annoying Coin Lock icon that only goes away when you enter a code thats immidiately sent to your phone and/or email when your IP changed (I may have the details wrong but you get the idea).

It can get annoying to some whose IP changes a lot (PPPoE?) but you can probably call your ISP for that. Maybe they can disable the coin lock for those who have that security app?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Elegance

More games need to steal trions coin lock system imo, the moment your account is accessed from a location far from usual, your character gets "coin locked" and you get sent a code via email,lock is removed upon entering the code.
They can log in, but are unable to shout, mail, drop items etc.
All they can really do is earn you money O_o

---

I agree, TRION's method is very good. Square Enix should copy it!