Solution to WAR problem is to nerf PLD

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10-02-2013, 08:39 AM
astrobear

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Originally Posted by Sephirah

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10-02-2013, 10:34 AM
Delorean

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Nerfing a class should not be the answer. If one class is inferior to another (which according to the dev team Warrior is NOT) then they should take steps to make said class better.

Well Ghostcrawler thought that Taste For Blood (Stacks up to 5, each stack increases the damage of Heroic Strike by 100%) was balanced, but hey we all know how that one turned out when Tosan got one shot in less than 20 seconds and started crying about it on youtube

Devs can be wrong.

But hey, you know what I have never seen? A well progressed WAR bragging about how great it is, and how the class is fine and people should stop whining and L2P.

And even if there were, they certainly didn't bother imparting the secret to their meticulous execution of their perfected technique that we all managed to miss somehow, either. There would definitely, without a shadow of doubt, be significantly fewer of them than all of the Paladins that don't even play Warriors making the same claim.

I hope that someday PLD players find themselves in the same boat so we can all just tell you that you haven't done enough research, that you're bad, and you should learn how to play instead of whining.

It's like, I see this guy in this other thread, he's just like "oh yeah so many WARs are so bad at this game, they are fine. What's really broken is SMNs doing 300 DPS." That is pretty much everything I assume and take from a post containing the aforementioned likeness.
10-02-2013, 10:44 AM
Rios-Drakoon

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Originally Posted by wlakiz

Lets face the truth, the problem with WAR is not because they can't tank content but is because people think PLD is better. The real solution is not to buff WAR but to nerf PLD. Change Shield Oath to increases chance to block by 50% then the problem would solve itself.

Dude, Block = 20-24% dmg reduce.

No no, Paladins are fine, der Problem are the Warriors. the Need a love patch for the Selfheals
10-02-2013, 12:08 PM
Tanaya

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Originally Posted by Delorean

I hope that someday PLD players find themselves in the same boat so we can all just tell you that you haven't done enough research, that you're bad, and you should learn how to play instead of whining.

FFXIV 1.0 would like to speak with you.
10-02-2013, 01:09 PM
wlakiz

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Originally Posted by Rios-Drakoon

Dude, Block = 20-24% dmg reduce.

No no, Paladins are fine, der Problem are the Warriors. the Need a love patch for the Selfheals

No.. Warriors are fine they can tank content but people use pally because they are op. My suggestion is a Nerf because you can't block magic and block is not guaranteed. Pld will have to eat 4.5k mountain busters like war
10-02-2013, 01:13 PM
Liger

Only one thing to do. Add enmity effect to steel cyclon and the warrior will overpower pld.
10-02-2013, 01:21 PM
Sephirah

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Originally Posted by wlakiz

My suggestion is a Nerf because you can't block magic and block is not guaranteed. Pld will have to eat 4.5k mountain busters like war

And turn PLD into something completely useless? A 4.5k hit on a 7K HP pool is not nearly the same as a 4.5k hit on a 5K hp pool.

Why don't we just do away with PLD and WAR and let SE release a class called TANK - we'll all have 8k HP, we'll all spam flash and hold threat endlessly, and we'll all have really awesome defense, that's what everyone wants right? Right? -_-
10-02-2013, 01:31 PM
wlakiz

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Originally Posted by Sephirah

And turn PLD into something completely useless? A 4.5k hit on a 7K HP pool is not nearly the same as a 4.5k hit on a 5K hp pool.

Why don't we just do away with PLD and WAR and let SE release a class called TANK - we'll all have 8k HP, we'll all spam flash and hold threat endlessly, and we'll all have really awesome defense, that's what everyone wants right? Right? -_-

Well let's compare apples to apples.. A 5k pally would only equate to a 6.25k war. And like a war you will have to manage your cool down to survive.. Isn't it great when you have to think while you tank?
10-02-2013, 01:37 PM
Sephirah

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Originally Posted by wlakiz

Well let's compare apples to apples.. A 5k pally would only equate to a 6.25k war. And like a war you will have to manage your cool down to survive..

And where are you getting those numbers? Let's assume warrior doesnt have increased VIT (which it does) and both PLD and WAR have exactly 5k HP. 40% of 5k is 2k, so it would be 7k. We also have to know when to use our cooldowns...

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Originally Posted by wlakiz

Isn't it great when you have to think while you tank?

So you're upset that the developers made the class you want to play more involved? You know half the people are complaining about PLD being TOO SIMPLE.
10-02-2013, 01:45 PM
wlakiz

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Originally Posted by Sephirah

And where are you getting those numbers? Let's assume warrior doesnt have increased VIT (which it does) and both PLD and WAR have exactly 5k HP. 40% of 5k is 2k, so it would be 7k. We also have to know when to use our cooldowns...

So you're upset that the developers made the class you want to play more involved? You know half the people are complaining about PLD being TOO SIMPLE.

Ehm.. War with defiance only gives 25% more HP.. Where did you get 40%? I perfectly happy with war that's why I suggest them to Nerf pld instead of buffing war

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