There is indeed a large amount of crappy players, but the crappy players tend to be people who just want to be carried (and would probably be better off just watching someone streaming the game than actually playing it) and get some twisted sense of accomplishment by beating other carries to their goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by firstsin
If you go into FFXIV with the intent of having fun, you stay off the official forums and stay off all the unofficial sites (eg reddit/4chan 2ch (jp.)) Because that's when you learn about all the horrible behavior. I'm surprised someone didn't write a sitcom based on crappy MMO players.
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06-01-2015, 10:29 PMKisaiTenshi
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06-01-2015, 10:31 PMEreavin
Ran Pharos Sirius with epic ilvl130 Tank (Full Dreadwyrm and Zeta), and I thought the run would be smooth....
But the reality, losing aggro to one flare from my friend and the mob aggro went haywire...so we wiped like 3x during hard pulls...
Yes, I did spam all my cd's and bene for both hard pulls..
Then he said "Noob Team" after the third wipe...Okay....(Reality Check please?)
But we finished it without any further problems.
Tried it again, this time with iLvl 110'ish Tank (barely have poetics gear)
Pull same amount of mobs, do my part as well. No wipe at all. He can handle 3 flares from my BLM friend no problem.
Guess after clearing t13 a lot of time to get that dreadwyrm gear, doesn't make you a better person =_=;
Kinda ruining my image about pro ppl having dreadwyrm gears are good, but I guess not everyone. -
06-02-2015, 12:18 AMSasealHe probably got carried through for gear, bought the account or had the armor from T13 runs but via maining a different class (not that it makes what he said right).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ereavin
It reminds me of a LoTA run in which one of the tanks had Demon gear but didn't know how to do LoTA and was asking "how do I do this one" for every platfdorm. Only thoughts I had were - he spammed WoD when it came out and forgot how to do LoTA after a long time... He acquired the account somehow (bought or given/borrowed/shared from friends or fam/etc) or he had the gear from rolling in WoD to gear a newbie tank class and didn't know how to tank LoTA (could have been a DPS or healer that just leveled up tank and had the gear already).
I had what I think is every healer's nightmare, last night... network issues in the middle of an fight. -_- Levi, no less (surprised I didn't slide overboard during that). I don't know how I managed to get as far as I did (the new, bigger monitor has been <3 for seeing the gysers, now) between just not being in there often and apparently getting the D/C symbol in and out during the whole fight (till my net finally crashed and burned for the rest of the night). I felt bad, as it seemed like a nice group, too. Luckily, I had gone in with an FC mate, so we were texting. Told her to tell them to just kick me and get a new healer that could be reliable in their network (since they had apparently been waiting for me to return o.o T^T).
Luckily, I didn't totally disconnect till we wiped when the last ADD frenzied us (eeehh I forgot the right term).
The funny side, though, at the point where I ended up frenzied, my character started running towards the ledge...... and somehow just -stopped- dead cold at the edge... (I didn't bother looking around, assuming I was done for) and I and my FC mate managed to stay on. I turned the cam to look back and..... no one but she and I were there. o_oa Apparently they all walked right off the boat... so I guess it was rather sudden for everyone. xD; Of course, one WHM and a DRG aren't going beat Levi at that point, and healer LB can't reach those that fell off, so.... we tried for the hell of it anyway and wiped.
we were this || close to starting again to pull when... -boop- "You have been disconnected from server". T^T It happened RIGHT after I selected 'Yes' to the Ready Check... -
06-02-2015, 02:10 AMArkenneWell, Pharos is ilvl synched to 110 so even if they are overgeared they get nerfed down :vQuote:
Originally Posted by Ereavin
So they were not that different from that i110 tank from later stats wise... -
06-02-2015, 02:32 AMtechnoleWhat gets forgotten is Pharos Sirius is a i110 sync dungeon, so all i130 stats get pushed down to the i110 cap. So I won't judge based on flare pulling aggro, not knowing the circumstances, it is possible the BLM could have went ham on their opener before the tank could secure hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ereavin
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06-02-2015, 03:02 AMSaseal
I think Technole was referring to Dreadwyrm gear correlated to player skill, rather than the gear's stats (IE, the assumption that if you have Dreadwyrm gear, then you're an awesome [insertclasshere] by player's skill).
I didn't think about if the BLM may have flared before hate was secured... which could be a problem - but if the tank was losing mobs to one flare because he wasn't establishing hate properly - or even fighting for it - then that is a different problem. x.x
Like Technole also mentioned - he went in again with a lesser-geared tank that was able to handle hate better - with assumption that they had less experience as someone in Dreadwyrm gear (again, it's possible they don't main tank and just was just able to gear their tank class). So either there was some other reason or the first tank wasn't dealing with aggro as well as his lesser geared counterpart (regardless of ilvl sync). It's possible he wasn't keeping hate levels up on all the mobs, and instead focusing on one or a few of the mob (or just hadn't cycled through all yet) - and the BLM's AoEs tore the rest off. -
06-02-2015, 06:25 AMEreavinYeah, I'm just scared and kinda dissapointed if t13 will become "carry-me-till-full-dreadwyrm". But maybe you're right, it's probably not his main or else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saseal
Also that network connection part, well I feel the same. Quite often I get disconnected during heavy pulls =.=
Yeah, I know it's synced down. :) But well, I think it's the matter of the player, not gear-wise completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkenne
Yep, I know it's synced down. Like I said, it's just the matter of the player perspective. Not really the gear-wise in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by technole
For the flare part, I looked at everyone's HP bar (and buff) after the 2nd wipe (which I normally do, to check if there's anything else causing the wipe or myself not healing fast enough); he turn on Quelling Strikes in the 2nd and 3rd...so yeah... ._.
Yep, maybe I just need to rephrase my sentence I guess. Not everyone get what I'm trying to say :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Saseal
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06-02-2015, 06:41 PMMeimi_chanThat's the main reason I don't want to tank post 50 dungeons, I have dreadwyrm gear for my tank because in my static everyone that plays tank has the gear already, so instead of letting it fall on the floor the other people that have tank gets it... If I were to tank some dungeon I would probably be a loltank or something... better I stick to dps or healing xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Ereavin
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06-02-2015, 08:09 PMMXMoondoggieSeen this loads lately i think since it became easier to carry in final coil loads more carry groups popped up and prices went down so everyone and his Mother have some Dreadwyrm if they have the Gil to pay for it. Seems all i encounter in EXDR or random DF EX Primal runs lately are these entitled Tanks with some Dreadwyrm who are awful and when you call them out they start inspecting you like "Oh nice raid gear lololol" and the sad thing is a lot of people in DF think gear = good so they go along with whatever that Tank is saying even if things are their fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ereavin
Best Tank i ever encountered in EXDR was barely over the minimum ilvl for it but they were a beast. Hardly took damage and even going all out with Holy i could not pull aggro off them and nor could a BLM or heavily geared NIN. It puts a lot in perspective when some max geared Tank loses aggro and starts calling everyone else noobs. -
06-02-2015, 11:29 PMtechnoleProbably an alt tank job that doesn't play their tank well. It's the same with other jobs. I wouldn't say carry, as it's not hard to get alt job gear compared to when FCoB was loot-locked weekly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie
Most of the time you can probably tell it's not a main if they have disparate ilvl gear present. Like seen an i100 waist and arms but have the i130 dread chest. Or this subpar WHM in WoD with the i130 dread chest but using a i110 Yagrush, and how surprised they were on how much MP holy costs, lol.
Like I have a full Dreadwyrm set for my WAR, yet it's not my main but I'm not afraid of being judged based on inspection and that it is because I know I can tank.