What's your first impression of Eureka?

To put it simple, this entire Eureka conflict is like Pepsi Vs Coke
Pepsi lovers fighting Coke Lovers while general public just treat both as refreshment drinks.
They don't care.

What are you even talking about.

Obviously Pepsi is better.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

Then why do people keep insisting on saying "it's the same as xxx, that's bad", when they simply could say "I find it to similar too xxx for my taste"?
It just sounds like they try to speak like their personal views are presented as the truth when it's simply their own personal opinion.

Thus I think it's fair to fight subjective opinions disguised as objective facts with objective arguments. Even if that's as "easy" to do as proving that 1 is not equals to 1.01.

In short, don't try to fake it and make it looks right when it's extremely easy to prove it wrong. Simply play fair and swallow the pill of "what I'm saying is just my personal opinion and is as valid as any other", and express yourself accordingly. Agree to disagree.

Also, words have meaning. Don't say something you don't mean in the hope that people will actually understand your underlying statement. That's silly. It's not hard to speak clearly and use the right words. That's all I ask.
I have no shame in playing the "well, technically..." guy if people act like that.

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Let me ask you something Fyce, do you expect people to precede literally everything they say with "Well in my opinion..." or conclude with "Well, that's just my opinion." I've given plenty of my opinions in the past while saying "It's bad" and then explaining why I think it's bad. I think it's a bit ridiculous to make sure people are being absolutely subjective. Just because I spit out my veggies and say "That's nasty." I'm not making an objective proclamation about vegetables. If you see somebody say "it's the same as xxx, that's bad" you should automatically assume that's their opinion.

Why do you assume they are trying to disguise their opinions as facts? Because they try to argue for their position? Welcome to a debate. "Television is a bad influence." Which side is going to be for this claim? Which is going to be against?

If we all just agree to disagree, there would be literally no point to making any claim whatsoever if you can't argue for or against it. We want to debate whether Eureka is good or bad, or what aspects of it are good or bad, because the future of Eureka affects all of us

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

What are you even talking about.

Obviously Pepsi is better.

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I am not sure how can you take that sugar water
Diet Coke is the best

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

What are you even talking about.

Obviously Pepsi is better.

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Sorry, Pepsi is disgusting.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

To put it simple, this entire Eureka conflict is like Pepsi Vs Coke
Pepsi lovers fighting Coke Lovers while general public just treat both as refreshment drinks.
They don't care.

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It's not polarizing like that if you pay attention to all the people contributing.
The people who dislike Eureka aren't necessarily opposed to everything that it is and want it gone. Most of us are asking for it to be more engaging, or barring that for the rewards to be available through other means. The people liking it also seem to agree that it's much shallower than they'd like and the implementation , while well intentioned, was poorly executed.

This is not a RED VS BLUE situation as a few like to think and demonizing either side will only spawn pages of veiled insults and bickering.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

That was the fun part of HNM hunting, no add on, and monster is not predictable. You need to use cds accordingly

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What do you know about hnm camping? pls elaborate because, we view things differently & yes I liked it.
I wish you would give up already, Eureka is bad.
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I am not sure how can you take that sugar water

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That's basically what soda is in a nutshell, and I happen to prefer sweeter things >_>

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

It's not polarizing like that if you pay attention to all the people contributing.
The people who dislike Eureka aren't necessarily opposed to everything that it is and want it gone. Most of us are asking for it to be more engaging, or barring that for the rewards to be available through other means. The people liking it also seem to agree that it's much shallower than they'd like and the implementation , while well intentioned, was poorly executed.

This is not a RED VS BLUE situation as a few like to think and demonizing either side will only spawn pages of veiled insults and bickering.

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I do agree Eureka need improvements.
It is only I find it is unacceptable to declare its death on arrival,
Eureka has a lot rooms for improvements.
The main purpose of this thread is "first impression" therefore few of us are trying to offering advise to make their Eureka experience better.
If you read the thread, how did they labelled us?
Diadem lovers, White Knights and now Sunk-Cost Fallacy.
We were not trying to make people to like Eureka, please do understand that.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Do I looks like I care if you are doing Eureka or not?
lol
Advise is for those who still need Eureka, don't ticket yourself it.
Don't like the Eurkea, then don't do it

Hold on let me check this instance, right... still 143/144.
I guess there are people who still need Eureka

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I remember your exact words on a previous post speaking about how you've seen some of us 'haters' in Eureka so I'm going to "assume" that you do care ^^