Give back pre-DT models back NOW

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

I've seen this "dead eyes" comment a few times. To me they look more alive than ever so I'm genuinely curious, in what way do you think they look dead? What would you like them to look like? Do you have an example you could share?

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Here’s an example from my character as well. Moon Miqo face 4. Should be pretty clear from this. Everything is grey and hazy, the underlid shadow is super heavy, and the catchlights and eye reflections all seem to be dimmed by both shadows and that grey haze. Pupils being tinted by iris colour and darker/lighter depending on the tone of the eyes has always been a thing but seems a lot more pronounced in 7.0 and I don’t know why. (not super visible in this gif, but very visible in different lighting.)

https://i.imgur.com/2tt7laW.gif

You can see how dull and hazy they are. The 6.x and 7.0 are the brightest colour from both eyes. Honestly, aside from the improved waterline texture, not a thing about this eye looks like a graphical upgrade to me. And yet it changed so much. It lost all its original style. Now it kinda looks like it’s from The Sims 3….

The moon miqo’te eye textures pre-dawntrail shown below were honestly pretty high quality before and the new ones look lower quality to me.
https://i.imgur.com/7xl70MU.jpeg

My eyes and my mouth feel an overall graphical downgrade to me. And my nose is a graphical upgrade but I can’t enjoy it because they gave me an unwanted nosejob and just made it perfectly straight and flat. No more cute button nose. Feels like some faces just got so much less effort :’<

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

I can tell you why. Some people act like serious egoists. They want their way of designs and likes, but shit on those, who are actually happy with the new update.
One might say, it's great that you care so much about your models, but most posters forget one important thing. If SE changes something - will inevitable lead to the next wave of people that want the changes reversed. Something YOU might not like, might be in favor for others. Instead of demanding the return of old textures, people could ask for more creator options, but I dont see that.

Well, this how the thread started, didnt it?

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So just because some people got lucky, the rest of us have to live and shut up any commentary about wanting our characters back? Fixing or giving us more options is the solution. Being emphatic with the people who are unhappy. Or just because you live in your bubble people who are dying and suffering in wars don't matter? They have a say too. They also want to be happy. This is the same, some of us got the end of the stick here. We want to be listened too, and fix what can be fixed because they surely changed some models too much. Or the eyes are now looking DEAD INSIDE. If a tiny fix makes our characters look more like before, why not?

The cat eyes with the slit pupils in Sun miqo'te are GONE, thanks to that horrible shadows they added, changing the colors, and adding an eyelid hiding the eye more than ever. in some models. This is not an upgrade no matter how you see it.

The title may not be the best, but it makes it stand out precisely because it's demanding.

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Originally Posted by xbahax92

I can tell you why...

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Originally Posted by Aurumis

So just because...

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Um, guys? Take a step back please and breathe, then look at this again, because you do not actually seem to be in disagreement with each other? You are both saying they shouldn't sacrifice one set of appearance options for another, you just disagree on which set you'd prefer they keep. It sounds to me like instead of bickering with each other you could add your combined energy to speak up together for more character options so that this wouldn't have to be an either/or situation in the first place?

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Originally Posted by Eyrilona

Um, guys? Take a step back please and breathe, then look at this again, because you do not actually seem to be in disagreement with each other? You are both saying they shouldn't sacrifice one set of appearance options for another, you just disagree on which set you'd prefer they keep. It sounds to me like instead of bickering with each other you could add your combined energy to speak up together for more character options so that this wouldn't have to be an either/or situation in the first place?

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Yeah I agree. People defensive of features they’ve had for two weeks are criticizing people attached to features they’ve had for up to 10 years yet convinced there’s no common ground. In my head it makes more sense to stick with the features that people have had for 10 years and add the new ones in as options but you could flip that and I would honestly just be relieved either way. Not like I’ve used the free fanta, or even my original free fanta. I’d even pay for one at this point if it meant I could go into CC and get my eyes, nose and mouth back.

I just want my character to look like my character again, like this:
https://i.imgur.com/W7sqrAH.png

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Originally Posted by Cheapshot

I just want my character to look like my character again, like this:

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Agreed.
Cataract eyes are annoying and I still think they could let the iris shimmer a bit more (it was even worse in Benchmark MKI).

I can't say that I agree with you the current textures are way better.

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Originally Posted by PaendeoLilli

I can't say that I agree with you the current textures are way better.

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All of them? Or specific ones? You didn’t quote anyone so not sure who you’re disagreeing with sorry

At least give yourself some time to get used to them. While I'm not the biggest fan and think they look weird I've had 8 years to get used to the original models.

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Originally Posted by Naychan

At least give yourself some time to get used to them. While I'm not the biggest fan and think they look weird I've had 8 years to get used to the original models.

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If playing since day 28 hours and hours doesn't make it, it won't make it ever. I'm used to the new one? Yeah, do I like it? NO. It's my character? NO. No matter how much time pases, this is not the character I created. And I hate his eyes now.

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Originally Posted by Cheapshot

Yeah I agree. People defensive of features they’ve had for two weeks are criticizing people attached to features they’ve had for up to 10 years yet convinced there’s no common ground. In my head it makes more sense to stick with the features that people have had for 10 years and add the new ones in as options but you could flip that and I would honestly just be relieved either way. Not like I’ve used the free fanta, or even my original free fanta. I’d even pay for one at this point if it meant I could go into CC and get my eyes, nose and mouth back.

I just want my character to look like my character again, like this:
https://i.imgur.com/W7sqrAH.png

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They completely ruined the F4 Miqo maybe the most, why....?