Review of 6.3 Story Content

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

After a decade of recycled animations in FFXIV, I’m immune.

There are other, more egregious examples of this, especially in Endwalker, so it’s a bit much to just put it all on her and get annoyed by it.

The Ea have their whole head detachment animation sequence, the Omicrons have the same head-scratching that the Sahagin have because they share a skeleton, and Haurchefant had his whole thing that even got made into an emote.

Hildebrand’s quests are even worse in this regard but Hildebrand is Hildebrand.

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I think it's less about recycled animations ( good ol fist punch and head nod ) and more the frequency that it happens. It's almost every single time they cut to her...and with this patch being a lot of development for her...it's A LOT. Imagine if our WoL did their little thing every single time it cut to them...and even like framed it so it's all you see. It would be picked on too.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I think it's less about recycled animations ( good ol fist punch and head nod ) and more the frequency that it happens. It's almost every single time they cut to her...and with this patch being a lot of development for her...it's A LOT. Imagine if our WoL did their little thing every single time it cut to them...and even like framed it so it's all you see. It would be picked on too.

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I wonder if it was just as bad as pre EW Alphinaud and his fist clutching. Course there was a lot of that during then and throughout the game. And dang it you got me to post in this thread. I was having such a good time just lurking and eating popcorn while people used the same arguments that have and will be ignored by the OP and any of their food hating defenders. I'm surprised one of his defenders didn't pull their "don't bully him by the word choice and phrasing" card they oh so love to play. How dare, How dare I say some one try and stifel the voices of those brave enough to criticize the game. eye roll

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Originally Posted by SannaR

And dang it you got me to post in this thread.

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I'm not apologizing! Nah I get exactly what you mean...but sometimes you just gotta jump into the mud and get dirty with the rest of us! We know Mr. OP isn't gonna join in unless someone strokes his ego a bit so you won't have to see him respond any till someone eventually does.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I think it's less about recycled animations ( good ol fist punch and head nod ) and more the frequency that it happens. It's almost every single time they cut to her...and with this patch being a lot of development for her...it's A LOT. Imagine if our WoL did their little thing every single time it cut to them...and even like framed it so it's all you see. It would be picked on too.

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My point wasn’t just that they’re recycled animations. The Ea, Omicrons, and Lopporits do their animations in every single cutscene they exist in, probably because those models can’t do much else.

Even if you ignore beastmen models, NPCs have had quirks just as common as Zero’s hat touch. Like Yda constantly doing squats in every other cutscene or Emet-Selch’s snap and wave.

This kind of thing has been around since the beginning and eventually they get referenced later on. I wouldn’t be surprised if Zero loses her hat at some point and goes to touch it and it’s not there.

I honestly found Jullus and Zero to be rather adorable together in what scenes they got. Also that buuz scene was great, partly from a technical level.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Like Yda constantly doing squats in every other cutscene or Emet-Selch’s snap and wave.

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They do that every cut scene? I must not have paid attention cause I can name the snap in like 3 cut scenes of Emet when he is in a LOT of cut scenes. Zero tipped her hat at least that much in the hour I played last night.

There is a difference between a signature motion and something that is done almost every single time.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Even if you ignore beastmen models, NPCs have had quirks just as common as Zero’s hat touch. Like Yda constantly doing squats in every other cutscene or Emet-Selch’s snap and wave.

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I think Emet does his sassy wave around 3 times across the entirety of Shadowbringers. I think he does his lil snap around 5 times in SHB and about the same amount in EW. He would have needed to end every conversation with a snap to keep up with Zero's hat tugging.

Similarly, I can't even think of a full handfull of times Yda does squats ^^;

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Originally Posted by Whalaqee

I honestly found Jullus and Zero to be rather adorable together in what scenes they got. Also that buuz scene was great, partly from a technical level.

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I agree on both counts. I know OP doesn't like the animated food stuff, but in this case I thought it really suited the scene.

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Originally Posted by Rokke

I think Emet does his sassy wave around 3 times across the entirety of Shadowbringers. I think he does his lil snap around 5 times in SHB and about the same amount in EW. He would have needed to end every conversation with a snap to keep up with Zero's hat tugging.

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Emet-Selch snaps three times in one cutscene in ShB. It's his go-to motion for performing a magical effect and was done enough just for him that we're able to pick him out when he looks like the standard faceless Ancient ghost thing.

Maybe it's because everyone else in the game can only do about 40 motions and Zero has a unique one, but it's just weird to be nitpicky and legitimately bothered by a unique emote. If she instead did the standard hand-to-chest-looking-down that Minfilia did every cutscene or the twins' chin touching, no one would've batted an eye.

1.0's cutscenes had a lot of life in them because they were mo-capped and everything from ARR and beyond is just the same stock motions over and over. If we're not ever getting that back, I think more important NPCs need more unique motions and character quirks to make them feel more like characters and less like puppets that share the same range of emotes. Zero has nothing going on emotionally so otherwise she would just stand there silently with no expression on her face during all of her "thinking" scenes, which I think is more uncanny than touching her hat.

One thing i had been wondering about plot wise:
If Halone and Menphina are Ice goddess, and their marks are put somewhere related to them and their elements, then Why did they put their marks in Coerthas? Up until 5 years ago it was a warm, lush climate much like La Noscea. lol

Bahamut altered the regions Aether turning them into the frost covered lands we see now.

Halone's stone being in Coerthas makes sense when Ishgard is dedicated to her right nearby. The question is whether Halone's stone is there because of the Ishgardian church, or if the Ishgardian church is there because of Halone's stone. Might be getting into "chicken or the egg" territory without further lore, though.