Yoshi-P: Flippant dismissal of player criticism is a poor look for a lead developer.

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07-05-2022, 03:21 AM
Raven2014

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

When you have no rebuttal or actual argument

How can others give you an actual argument when you presented none?
07-05-2022, 03:30 AM
Tigerlilley

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

Considering Yoshi-P's general demeanor during Live Letters, the fact that something like this is even a thread is just hilarious. To pretty much everyone who's been around for a while and seen a letter live or two, Yoshi-P is light-hearted. There's a reason there's so many meme jokes and pictures of the guy. When Yoshi-P is serious about something even those of us that can't understand Japanese at all can tell.

The problem with this issue in particular is it really feels like Yoshi and the team do not truly understand what players are asking for. Like, I just want to tell them, do you know what players would do for a glamour log? They'd log on every single day, run every single peice of content just to fill it out.

Could you imagine like, if you got every single peice from ARR for example, it unlocked the glamours for all roles? (Aside from AF). Dude, people would run that FOREVER.

We have these systems, the dream suite, the glamour plates, other types of logs with check marks to show you've collected that item. It's all there, it's in the game. Can they not see that we want them to just put all that together? No one is asking for more space, it just feels like they are constantly missing the point.
07-05-2022, 03:50 AM
SomeRandomHuman

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Originally Posted by Tigerlilley

The problem with this issue in particular is it really feels like Yoshi and the team do not truly understand what players are asking for. Like, I just want to tell them, do you know what players would do for a glamour log? They'd log on every single day, run every single peice of content just to fill it out.

Could you imagine like, if you got every single peice from ARR for example, it unlocked the glamours for all roles? (Aside from AF). Dude, people would run that FOREVER.

We have these systems, the dream suite, the glamour plates, other types of logs with check marks to show you've collected that item. It's all there, it's in the game. Can they not see that we want them to just put all that together? No one is asking for more space, it just feels like they are constantly missing the point.

The problem with this thread is it's taking issue with something that's not. No one ever said they didn't want more glamour inventory. No one ever said they didn't want more inventory. What this thread is doing is raising a ruckus for the same of a ruckus.
07-05-2022, 05:26 AM
Tigerlilley

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

The problem with this thread is it's taking issue with something that's not. No one ever said they didn't want more glamour inventory. No one ever said they didn't want more inventory. What this thread is doing is raising a ruckus for the same of a ruckus.

This thread is taking issue that Yoshi appeared to be mocking a valid sore point from the community and it was not well received by OP. And honestly, I agree, it was too on the nose.
07-05-2022, 05:34 AM
SomeRandomHuman

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Originally Posted by Tigerlilley

This thread is taking issue that Yoshi appeared to be mocking a valid sore point from the community and it was not well received by OP. And honestly, I agree, it was too on the nose.

Then I suggest you take a step back and think about how serious you're taking a video game.

At this rate we won't be getting live letters anymore since everything the devs say likes to be taken in the most-offencive way possible.
07-05-2022, 05:51 AM
Zanarkand-Ronso

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Originally Posted by Wombatmetal

I doubt they are working in good faith. I think they are deciding what is best and not taking player's views into consideration, and you see this at different levels in SE. From shutting the servers on the Fourth to doubling down on blockchain when the players really don't want that. It's a theme in SE

Said Blockchain is not in FFXIV, and they shut down the servers on July 4th for scheduled Maintenance.
Calling this Bad Faith is very....silly.
07-05-2022, 05:51 AM
DPZ2

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

When you have no rebuttal or actual argument, result to personal attacks it seems:

This, from the guy who says:

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Stop white knighting, it's not like they don't have the resources to do this.
07-05-2022, 07:43 AM
Tigerlilley

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Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman

Then I suggest you take a step back and think about how serious you're taking a video game.

At this rate we won't be getting live letters anymore since everything the devs say likes to be taken in the most-offencive way possible.

This forum exists for community feedback and discussion on said video game. This thread is community feedback and discussion. Just because we might be hurting your fweelings doesn't mean the conversation isn't valid.

"It's just a game" is a poor rebuttal on an official video game forum.
07-05-2022, 08:04 AM
Dikatis

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Originally Posted by Tigerlilley

The problem with this issue in particular is it really feels like Yoshi and the team do not truly understand what players are asking for. Like, I just want to tell them, do you know what players would do for a glamour log? They'd log on every single day, run every single peice of content just to fill it out.

Could you imagine like, if you got every single peice from ARR for example, it unlocked the glamours for all roles? (Aside from AF). Dude, people would run that FOREVER.

We have these systems, the dream suite, the glamour plates, other types of logs with check marks to show you've collected that item. It's all there, it's in the game. Can they not see that we want them to just put all that together? No one is asking for more space, it just feels like they are constantly missing the point.

I'm fairly certain it was said that a glamour log is currently impossible within FFXIV's infrastructure because of the amount of data it would require per character.

He's not averse to the idea, but the amount of resources it would take to work on top of the content they're already trying to put out would not be feasible given budget and time constraints.

It's not that "they're ignoring what players want" it's, "We quite literally can't given the pressure we're under and our server capacity."

https://i.redd.it/12934b9r9ta71.png
07-05-2022, 08:34 AM
Tigerlilley

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Originally Posted by Dikatis

It's not that "they're ignoring what players want" it's, "We quite literally can't given the pressure we're under and our server capacity."

https://i.redd.it/12934b9r9ta71.png

By the way, every single player will have a private customizable island and a entire new seperate inventory system for free....

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