[dev1206] Class Reforms & Action Lists

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

The lists are concerning to me.

It's just not what I expected.

It's almost like a pure black mage doesn't even exist anymore, and many of the classes I play have lost their identity in favor of being more directed to compliment the jobs. A skill selection of 15 skills is very small, but that's sort of a starting point, I guess.

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you will still have access to 30 skills though since you get 5 from jobs and 10 cross class, you are only llimited to 15 if you never unlock your job and never rank another class.

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Originally Posted by lenn1

This is why there's a disclaimer in red letters before every official post saying things are subject to change.

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Exactly, EVERYTHING is subject to change.. Its not lying. :/

The list of changes looks great, the battlefield will now be filled with players running around fiends positioning properly for their WS's and combos. I like it how they gave every class something to do asides from simple auto-attack + WS. GLA(PLD) sounds that it will be awesome with that 50% HP heal xD.

@Kiote: You seem to be misunderstanding the term "Fundamental play style". On paper at least, the fundamental play style of all classes has been retained. GLA will still be tank, MRD, PGL and LNC will still deal damage in their own way (very creatively I might add) Arc still shows that will deal damage but turning more into support class like was specified, CON still seems to be the healer class and THM still seems to be the DD mage.

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Originally Posted by tymora

All level 50s will be noobs on the day on 1.20.

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I can't wait! It's exciting.

I find the tears of the constant QQ'ers to be delicious.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

Ok first of all, Most of the abilities in that list cannot be cross classes. So versatility is out the window.

Secondly, Repeatedly saying you will not change the fundamental play style of any given classes and then changing the fundamental play style of every class is a Lie.

Saying one thing and doing the exact opposite is a LIE.

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they didn't change any classes play style, removing abilities is not changing the play style, name one class whose play style was effected. GLD still tanks, MRD can tank and do DPS, LNC still is a DD with TP management, pug is still a fast attacking evade machine, Arch is still a ranged DD, Con is still a healing focus mage, THM is still a DD mage.

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Originally Posted by tymora

All level 50s will be noobs on the day on 1.20.

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I think most if not all players are going to be on there back foot for a while after the patch. Going to be interesting

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Originally Posted by Platinumstorm

The lists are concerning to me.

It's just not what I expected.

It's almost like a pure black mage doesn't even exist anymore, and many of the classes I play have lost their identity in favor of being more directed to compliment the jobs. A skill selection of 15 skills is very small, but that's sort of a starting point, I guess.

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I don't recall ever seeing a "pure" black mage cast protect, shell, cure, curaga, raise in another final fantasy. Like i said before, conj have always been healers.

Sounds like people are complaining just to complain as usual.

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Originally Posted by Griss

I think most if not all players are going to be on there back foot for a while after the patch. Going to be interesting

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hehe I already know what cross class abilities I'm going to use and my combo/buff rotations =D

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Originally Posted by tymora

All level 50s will be noobs on the day on 1.20.

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Knowing these changes were going to be somehow drastic I refused to level other classes to 50. I think it will be very fun to try all these changes from low level :D

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Originally Posted by Kiote

I'm not exactly sure where you come from or how you were raised. But where I'm from, Saying one thing and doing the exact opposite is called a LIE.

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CNJ mainly cures now. It will mainly cure after the patch. No change.
THM use roughly the same nukes over and over. They will have more variety after the patch. They still nuke. No change.
GLA isn't used for anything but tanking now. After the patch, they will still be tanking. No change.
PGL is used as a melee DD right now. After the patch, they will have the OPTION of adding elemental damage. They are still a melee DD. No change.
LNC is a melee DD right now. After the patch, they will do more damage. They are still a melee DD. No change.
MRD is a hybrid tank/DD right now. After the patch, they will still be a hybrid tank/DD. No change.

The mechanics of the class are changing. The fundamentals of the class are not. They are adjusting the mechanics of class skills. Not how the class plays.