I hope Yoshi-P will not listen to all those immature requests.

No Jump and No open PVP thank you. They're both meaningless in this game imo.

Plenty of other games out there where PVP fits better into it's universe and is being executed a helluva lot better than SE has the potential of getting right I think. PVP is going to take more man power or take up the man power available to try and plan, create, balance and all the work that goes with it. I would MUCH rather prefer all that time and energy be put into PVE content such as dungeons or other group activities like Campaign Battles in XI.


Jumping is a useless feature, and by useless I mean I haven't found a ledge yet that made me cry for the ability to jump. It's also something I don't remember doing a considerable amount of in Final Fantasy so I don't see the point. And it will be abused more than ever thanks to the endless debate about it. If a standard jump is put into the game, people will be jumping as often, in the most awkward ways and as obnoxiously as possible, just to piss off all the people that didn't want jump and annoy the people that didn't even care about having it in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Draven

No Jump and No open PVP thank you. They're both meaningless in this game imo.

Plenty of other games out there where PVP fits better into it's universe and is being executed a helluva lot better than SE has the potential of getting right I think. PVP is going to take more man power or take up the man power available to try and plan, create, balance and all the work that goes with it. I would MUCH rather prefer all that time and energy be put into PVE content such as dungeons or other group activities like Campaign Battles in XI.


Jumping is a useless feature, and by useless I mean I haven't found a ledge yet that made me cry for the ability to jump. It's also something I don't remember doing a considerable amount of in Final Fantasy so I don't see the point. And it will be abused more than ever thanks to the endless debate about it. If a standard jump is put into the game, people will be jumping as often, in the most awkward ways and as obnoxiously as possible, just to piss off all the people that didn't want jump and annoy the people that didn't even care about having it in the first place.

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It's a different team then FFXI and Yoshi-P looks like he really knows what he is doing. He even said that he is a PVPer at heart so PVP will be there and it will not neccessarly suck like it did in FFXI. As per Yoshi-P said, the chances of a open world PVP are very slim so you don't have to worry.

As for Jump it is far from being useless. It is true very few FF games made use of it but it has an enormous potential. As for now, Yoshi-P would like to use Jump to avoid obstacles.... Instead of going around all the time, you would be able to jump down a ledge or jump back up... jump over an obstacle. It also opens the door for some very clever level design.

I saw some concerns that people had about jump and battle mechanics, but i can tell you all that jumping will not affect battle at all... i really don't see how it would or i don't recall any MMO who implemented it into battle. As for Dragoons will probably not use the regular jump but rather an ability/spell that will make them jump much higher..

I would LOVE to see PvP in this game but only if its an arena / instance so it does not effect the PVE aspect of the game. That way people have a choice if they want to PvP they can, but they are not forced to or get their gameplay interrupted bec of world pvp.

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I would LOVE to see PvP in this game but only if its an arena / instance so it does not effect the PVE aspect of the game. That way people have a choice if they want to PvP they can, but they are not forced to or get their gameplay interrupted bec of world pvp.

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Would you agree with open world PVP if they gave you an option to switch your PVP flag on or off? That way went it is off people will not be able to attack you.

I thought about an option for some kind of open world PVP that will not affect the other players who prefer to PVE and quest.

Maybe they could give us the option of having our linkshell/guild/companies declare war on each other. Maybe a group can declare war on another group and you can attack only members of that specific group. Alliances also can be made with other groups etc... It needs to be elaborated but that is the idea....

Instead of mog houses, they could give us some landmarks.. fortresses that we can capture and own. We could then decorate those fortresses and would be the meeting place of our group/company. The stronger and the more victories the group has, the more NPC would you have to defend you fortress....

Another group could raid that place and take it for their own.

This game was made PvE-centric. It should stay as such. I'm not particularly against PvP, but if I wanted to play a PvP game, I wouldn't look for it in an FF game.

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This game was made PvE-centric. It should stay as such. I'm not particularly against PvP, but if I wanted to play a PvP game, I wouldn't look for it in an FF game.

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But Yoshi-P said there will be PVP for sure! The question here is not should we make it PVE or PVP... it's too late for that and PVE only will never happen. What the Devs want to know is how to make PVP in FFXIV?

I personally feel that PVP ruins games. I quit WoW because they try so hard to find that perfect balance in abilities between PvE and PvP and playing that game was like riding a roller coaster trying to keep up with the latest hotfixes and class changes. At one point in my life I enjoyed that feeling, it was exciting. But now that I've grown up a bit I suppose I grew out of it. I want to play a stable game with challenging PvE content. I've learned that you can beat the rush you get in PvP, and that's by killing a challenging boss with a bunch of friends playing balanced classes.

I'd be lying if I said PvP never had good times, though. I remember one time in WoW back in vanilla a friend and I were farming consumables and started an all out 40v40+ guild war in Winterspring. It was totally awesome, but those memories can stay with WoW. I want FFXIV to have its own unique memories because honestly, no matter how much they tried I don't think they could ever match my good WoW PvP memories. They should focus on what developers nowadays dont focus on, and that's PvE. There are a plethora of other games to play with PvP content.

With all that said; however, I wouldn't be opposed to something like Ballista or some kind of pvp sport like a Blitzball type thing.

I don't understand why you people are so hung up on thinking that there will be open world PvP. There is no and I repeat NO cross faction battle here. We have no Good / Evil races to compete against each other and I doubt that we ever will. When PvP is introduced and that's going to be a long when it will most likely be in the form of arena combat.

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Would you agree with open world PVP if they gave you an option to switch your PVP flag on or off? That way went it is off people will not be able to attack you.

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hate to butt in, but i certainly dont want or need another flag next to my name.
Besides PvP flag... just pure WoW rip-off.

People with low specs PC's... i dont think they want to accidently run into some PvP challenge & have that cause pointless lag for them, we're not suppose to fight each other in-game but rather join forces to fight the Erozean threath.
Even worse for them if they accidently forgot to turn off their PvP flag.